[AR] Re: "Direct" Hydrogen Peroxide engines

  • From: Henry Vanderbilt <hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:37:11 -0700

I see that, among other combinations, you can buy platinum-iridium clad niobium wire. I have no idea how chemically suitable that would be, but I would think it'd be fine for 99% peroxide temperature-wise.

http://www.anometproducts.com/content/precious-metal-clad-wire

There are all sorts of other combinations available, including clad tantalum-tungsten wire. Anyone knowledgeable care to comment whether anything there is potentially interesting for HTP cat-packs?

On 9/16/2016 7:18 AM, Henry Vanderbilt wrote:

Just out of curiosity, anyone have a source and price on pure
platinum/palladium mesh or wire?  On plated mesh or wire?  It occurs to
me that it might be overall cheaper to bite the bullet and pay, say,
$10K per engine, than to put more time and effort into finding a cheap
alternative for HTP cat-packs when that's already soaked up so much time
and effort to no avail.

Henry

    On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 1:33 PM, William Claybaugh
    <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx
        The 98% peroxide thrusters developed--but not used--for X-37
        used woven screens in more or less the conventional manner used
        for silver.  They worked w/o incident in testing.

        Bill


        On Thursday, September 15, 2016, Randall Clague
        <rclague@xxxxxxxxx
        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rclague@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

            ERPS tested platinum/palladium beads in 1994.  The beads
            work fine in an ashtray, as ERPS demonstrated during their
            talks at Space Access '94 and '95.  (In '95 they scorched
            the tablecloth, and they were asked not to repeat their
            demonstration.)

            Video of a test ERPS did with a platinum/palladium bead
            catalyst pack shows that the exhaust starts out white, goes
            clear, then turns tan.  Post-test inspection showed that
            many beads were crushed or absent.  The tan exhaust was
            interpreted as pulverized catalyst departing the engine, and
            their hypothesis was that the beads lost structural
            integrity due to thermal shock.

            -R

            On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:46 PM, William Claybaugh
            <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

                I'm pretty sure that Platinum / Palladium cat beds are
                proven to work just fine and last forever running 98%
                Peroxide.

                Bill






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