Well, back when I was still doing profile editing I too had these scripts which I could use to determine what the "look" of a camera or process was, and then derive a profile to achieve this desired look from some other camera. Within limits. After writing these scripts, for my own entertainment, I batch-applied my scripts to over a hundred profiles from a popular commercial Raw converter. I never quite figured out what the legal implications of such algorithmic reverse engineering and reprocessing are :) Edmund On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Beisch Clemens <clemens.beisch@xxxxxx> wrote: > It would be very interisting to what patent they refer. > > In 1995 Ben Griffin published a smart little tool called «Profile Editor». > It was for OS9. > > With the app you are able to extract the LUT of ICC profiles as raw pixel > bitmap. > This was made for editing in Photoshop or other apps and put it back to the > ICC profile. > > So this is very old technology. > Lets see what patent they are reffering to and at what time it was published > ;-) > > Regards, > Clemens Beisch > > Am 16.02.2009 um 01:29 schrieb edmund ronald: > >> How should I know? That was one unhappy conversation. I saw no point >> to it - after all patents are a form of disclosure so it seemed to me >> that anything that has been patented has already -ab definitio- been >> disclosed. At least now, some of this stuff is out there. I guess I'm >> not fit to become a lawyer, I don't understand all these IP issues. >> >> Edmund >> >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Roger <graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Are you referring to Kodak ProfileWizard MiO v4? Or the upcoming Kodak >>> ColorFlow v5.1 for Prinergy? Or the old Custom Color Tools plug-in for >>> Photoshop OSX? >>> >>> Just curious... >>> >>> Roger >>> >>>> -----Message d'origine----- >>>> De : argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms- >>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de edmund ronald >>>> Envoyé : 15 février 2009 17:55 >>>> À : argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Objet : [argyllcms] Re: Profiling between two images >>>> >>>> I'm happy someone has seen fit to publish this stuff. I had scripts to >>>> do this sort of thing for editing profiles, but the Kodak people >>>> warned me against publishing my methods as they considered that >>>> publication was an encouragement to break the patents on their own >>>> profile editor. So it is with great relish that I see all of this >>>> going into the public domain :) >>>> >>>> Edmund >>> >>> >>> >>> > > >