[arachne] Re: Small non-lethal attachments - Was: Re: AWFUL CLOSE BUT STILL NO DAMN CIGAR

  • From: "Eric S. Emerson" <sernemo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:22:44 -5000

Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!

Hi Jason,
          Believe it or not...that 14.4k real modem
works much better and as fast or faster with Arachne
on my 486 machine than a 56k Winmodem in my 233MHz pentium
W$dz machine.  And it makes the internet connection with
Arachne about ten times faster and is at least 1000 times
more reliable.

Eric

On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:47:30 -0600, Frank Vuckovich wrote:

> 14.4?  Wow.  Here they pretty much toss out 56k modems.  You can't scrounge
> one up?

> On 11/22/06, Eric S. Emerson <wildrice5@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!

>> Hi Rob,
>>                  I, too, am on dialup. I also don't
>> particularly like large attachments when
>> I'm not expecting them. I'm running a 14.4
>> modem on my Arachne computer and it takes
>> a while to download e-mail. Wiz, has been
>> gracious to provide this list and I appreciate
>> his kindness. I certainly don't want to over
>> stress him with monitoring duties.
>>      On the other hand, I have been on and off
>> and on an Arachne list for 8-10 yrs now and
>> it has mostly been a very well behaved list
>> where the members have been considerate
>> of others on the list. We have all made occasional
>> mistakes but we are usually well behaved.
>> The Arachne list is the only list that I have
>> been on that I can give that commendation.
>> It just seems rude to me for someone to
>> signup on a list and then bounce their e-mails
>> back at the list/list moderator just because
>> they don't want attachments. I think we all
>> are aware of the risks of attachments and
>> know how to deal with them properly. My
>> e-mail puts questionable e-mails into a
>> slop bucket but it doesn't rudely on their
>> whim send them back to clog up other
>> peoples computers and mailboxes.
>> At least, no one has complained about
>> my email being spit back at them. If I were
>> a moderator of a list, I would be very tempted
>> to remove any address from the list if
>> I kept getting e-mails bounced back at me
>> from that address. Of course, I would first
>> send a warning to that address so that
>> a correction could be made if possible.
>> But, then again, maybe there is something
>> that I don't understand about why it is
>> necessary to bounce e-mails back at
>> the list moderator.

>> Eric

>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:44:19 -0600 (CST) Rob <robo13@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> > Eric,
>> >   On most of the email lists I'm on, attachments are a big 'no no'.
>> > Most of them strip any attachments before the email even gets posted.
>> > Also I've been aggravated by some rather large attachments sent to
>> > the Arachne lists in the past, I'm on dialup. I especially don't
>> > like receiving binary attachments, because they can hide malware.
>> > I'm on quite a few mailing lists, and just about every one of them
>> > it's either required, or just considered proper Netiquette for posts
>> > to be in text, and NO attachments.
>> > Rob
>> > --
>> > -------------Pine Email - Powered by NetBSD-------------
>> >
>> > On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Eric S. Emerson wrote:
>> >
>> > > Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
>> > >
>> > > Hi Wiz,
>> > >        Sorry, we aren't intentionally causing
>> > > you grief.  When did this attachement problem
>> > > start and why. People have been sending
>> > > attachments on the list as long as I can
>> > > remember. There is much good info and files
>> > > I would have missed if someone had sent it
>> > > personally instead of as an attachment to
>> > > the list. Doesn't that kind of diminish
>> > > the usefulness of the list? I'm not trying
>> > > to cause any trouble...just asking a
>> > > question. :-)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Eric
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:22:39 -0600, Glenn Gilbreath Jr. wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
>> > >
>> > >> PLEASE!!  Have mercy on poor old Wiz!
>> > >> NO ATTACHMENTS TO MAIL TO THE LIST...
>> > >> "Cut 'n paste" using some clipboard utility
>> > >> the text you desire to send, but PLEASE...no
>> > >> file attachments.  There are several members
>> > >> whose email services block all attachments,
>> > >> and guess what?  The "bounce message"
>> > >> notifications are then sent to me, complete
>> > >> with copies of the file(s), and I have to wade
>> > >> through them.  If a member offers to help with
>> > >> a particular file problem, get their personal
>> > >> email and send it only to them.
>> > >> TIA!
>> > >> Wiz  <{;-)
>> > >> At 11/22/06 1:21:00 AM, you wrote:
>> > >>> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
>> > >
>> > >>> Many thanks to Glenn, Eric, Ray and others for suggestions for
>> > getting
>> > >>> Arachne
>> > >>> going at the Vancouver Free Net.  Ray very helpfully gave me his
>> > complete
>> > >>> former configuration for VCN.  However, a few things have
>> > changed at VCN in
>> > >
>> > >>> the meantime.  I did managed to log on their to the extent of
>> > getting my
>> > >>> non-
>> > >>> existent mail, but could not move on to a URL.
>> > >
>> > >>> After an abortive trial of Ray's script on A173, I moved on and
>> > did
>> > >>> everything
>> > >>> else on my recently totally re-configured A190.
>> > >
>> > >>> Glenn's solution did not quite work either although it was quite
>> > similar to
>> > >
>> > >>> the basic core of Ray's solution.
>> > >
>> > >>> Ultimately I tried each alone and each with elements of the
>> > other, and I
>> > >>> always managed to get to a dial screen  and dial with Arachne
>> > protesting.
>> > >
>> > >>> I always wound up getting the following message:
>> > >
>> > >>> No IP address was found in PPP dialer log file or no packet
>> > driver was
>> > >>> loaded.
>> > >>> Possible reasons:
>> > >>> Hardware fault (modem busy or disconnected phone line etc.)
>> > >>> Authentication failed due to invalid username and password.
>> > >>> Bad authentication scheme (PAP, CHAP or login script)
>> > >>> There is no connection to internet now.
>> > >
>> > >>> See Arachne documentation for more info.
>> > >>> RETRY NOW   PPPDIALER  SETUP PPP.
>> > >>> Checking after each trial: modem and phone were ok;  username
>> > and password
>> > >>> were ok;  PPP dialer log file was ok and contained the correct
>> > IP address..
>> > >>> There may well be a problem with Pap, Chap, or login script.
>> > >
>> > >>> To prevent any possibility of a fractured script, I am enclosing
>> > my two
>> > >>> best
>> > >>> trial Arachne.CFG's in a zip file called A190RAGL.ZIP.
>> > >
>> > >>> Help will be greatly appreciated.
>> > >>>                  Arachne at FreeLists
>> > >>> -- Arachne, The Premier GPL Web Browser/Suite for DOS --
>> > >
>> > >> Wizard57M
>> > >> http://www.geocities.com/wizard57m/index.html
>> > >
>> > >>              Arachne at FreeLists
>> > >> -- Arachne, The Premier GPL Web Browser/Suite for DOS --
>> > >
>> > > -- This mail was written by a user of the Arachne Browser -
>> > http://arachne.cz/
>> > >
>> > >                  Arachne at FreeLists
>> > > -- Arachne, The Premier GPL Web Browser/Suite for DOS --
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >

>>                   Arachne at FreeLists
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