[arachne] Re: CHRISTOPHER CANSAMONE'S VCN LOGIN SCRIPT
- From: "Eric S. Emerson" <wildrice5@xxxxxxxx>
- To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:47:49 -0500
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Sam,
I assume, maybe wrongly, that Brian
had used the wizard when he setup the new
A190J1 version. The wizard only worked for
Brian after Christopher at VCN told him what
the answers were to the Wizard's questions.
If you would like to write a manual on how to
answer the Wizards questions, I'm sure it would
be received with open arms. I, personally, find
trying to communicate directions by e-mail
very demanding, difficult, and time consuming.
It seems that at least a half of e-mail directions
are misinterpreted by the receiver and have to
be rephrased. And the person trying to help is
always exposing himself to criticism and
harassment from those who are lurking and
just waiting for someone to expose himself.
Eric
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:09:32 -0500 (EST) ewalt@xxxxxxxx writes:
> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
>
> Evidently the wizard worked flawlessly at VCN once somebody bothered
> to try it. If someone has a hard time with the wizard then there's
> probably no hope that a more complicated approach will be sucessful.
> What
> I don't
> understand is skipping the wizard and jumping into the deep end
> without
> being able to swim even a little. How is somebody going to cope with
> arachne.cfg if the wizard's questions are difficult for them to
> understand?
>
>
>
> Eric S. Emerson said:
> > Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >
> > Hi Sam E.,
> > You are absolutely right. The Wizard
> > is the first and best way to go.....if it works. But,
> > to us who are familiar with the Wizard, he is an
> > old friend of ours, his questions seem simple
> > to answer. To some others, not familiar with
> > the wizard and his questions, the answers to
> > his questions can be hard to answer. And when
> > the Wizard doesn't get a connection then things
> > aren't so simple and getting connected can
> > require much work. Unfortunately, there is no
> > universal connection method used by all ISP's.
> > And the hardest question to answer, or get an
> > answer to, is what method does any specific
> > ISP use and what specific options does the ISP
> > utilize. I have found that the help person one gets
> > on the phone at his ISP often can't answer these
> > questions and/or doesn't want to be bothered with
> > them. The miracle here, with Brian, is that he
> > found a person at VCN who really wanted to help
> > him and was smart enough to provide information
> > in such a way that Brian could use it to get connected.
> > I think Christopher Cansamone at VCN should get
> > "Helper of the Year" awartd.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:19:42 -0500 (EST) ewalt@xxxxxxxx writes:
> >> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >>
> >> Hi Brian,
> >>
> >> The interesting thing to me about this login to VCN is that it
> was
> >> accomplished with a fresh install and by using the Arachne
> >> installation
> >> wizard.
> >>
> >> In most cases the Arachne installation wizard will create an
> >> effective
> >> login for you without the need to futz around with Arachne.cfg by
> >> trial and error. Trial and error is seldom as effective as the
> >> wizard
> >> and can lead to much confusion.
> >>
> >> In order to use the wizard all you need to know is the telephone
> >> number
> >> of the ISP, a working DNS number to enter when prompted, and your
> >> username
> >> and password. Rarely there is a problem with an "Init string" for
> >> the
> >> modem. Most often you can just use "ATZ" or "AT&F0" and that
> >> information
> >> is noted in the wizard.
> >>
> >> Manual logins are usually not required and as the wizard notes
> "This
> >> option
> >> is disabled by default, because some 90% of ISP's use PAP or CHAP
> >> authentication these days." In other words you don't have to
> create
> >> a
> >> "script" to authenticate yourself during login. The
> authentication
> >> will
> >> happen "automagically" as we like to say around here.
> >>
> >> Before delving into the workings of Arachne.cfg I urge anyone who
> is
> >> having problems to try a *fresh*install and the wizard. Do not
> >> import
> >> anything from another version. Just start from scratch and let
> the
> >> wizard
> >> do the work.
> >>
> >> The proof of the effectiveness of this method is that it was used
> by
> >> the tech support person at VCN to login without even looking at
> the
> >> Arachne.cfg.
> >>
> >> It's the method I've always used and it works.
> >>
> >> Of course many people prefer to muck around manually. That can
> work
> >> for the Arachne expert and the knowledgeable minority, but it's a
> >> tough
> >> way to go for the Arachne novice.
> >>
> >> I'm glad you were able to get connected at VCN. Happy surfing!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Brian C. Murphy said:
> >> > Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >> >
> >> > Further to a recent request from members of the Arachne list,
> >> below please
> >> > find a copy of Christopher Chansamone's directions for logging
> in
> >> to the
> >> > Vancouver Community Net (VCN) as an ISP with Arachne version
> 1.90
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully this cut and pasted upload will be devoid of any
> missing
> >> > characters.
> >> >
> >> > Brian Murphy
> >> > BCMURPHY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
=========================================================================
> > Subject:
> >> > [vcn.bc.ca #70128] (help) Please help, the user has connection
> >> > problem
> >> > Date: 21-Nov-06 at 15:05
> >> > From: Christopher Chanhsamone via RT, INTERNET:helpcn.bc.ca
> >> > TO: BCMURPHY
> >> >
> >> > Hi Brian Murphy,
> >> > Sorry for taking so long to reply. I got a chance to test out
> >> Arachne
> >> > myself.
> >> > I used the PPP wizard and I pasted the arachne.cfg it created
> for
> >> me
> >> > below.
> >> > I
> >> > recommend deleting Arachne and then reinstalling it so you have
> >> new
> >> > configuration files.
> >> >
> >> > Using the PPP wizard, I entered the modem's gstring, selected
> dial
> >> tone,
> >> > enterted VCN's phone number (604-638-0189), entered my username
> >> and
> >> > password,
> >> > selected dynamically assign IP, and entered VCN's nameserver as
> >> > 207.102.64.23
> >> > and 207.102.64.3.
> >> >
> >> > I don't recommend copy and pasting the configuration directly
> >> because of
> >> > the
> >> > modem specific settings.
> >> >
> >> > ;This is ARACHNE.CFG for Arachne version 1.6+
> >> > ;If you want to use Arachne on PC with CPU 486+ you should
> start
> >> here.
> >> > ;(tested on AMD K5/133). You should have really fast video card
> >> for this.
> >> > ;This configuration file can be completely controled from
> Arachne
> >> >
> >> > [profile]
> >> > Profile FASTPC.ACF
> >> > Connection pppd.exe>>PPP.LOG
> >> > Hangup ermin.com 0x60>NUL
> >> >
> >> > ;Connection md ... command cmd will estabilish connection
> >> > ;Connection READY ... connection is permanent, packet driver
> in
> >> > AUTOEXEC...
> >> > ;Connection NUL ... do not start TCP/IP (run "arachne -c"
> to
> >> force
> >> > this)
> >> >
> >> > [dialer]
> >> > DialPage file:ppp_init.htm
> >> > Dialer INITERM.EXE>PPP.LOG
> >> > TerminalWindow INITERM.EXE
> >> > UseTerminal No
> >> > Port
> >> > Irq
> >> > Base
> >> > Mode 8N1
> >> > Speed 115200
> >> > InitString ATZ
> >> > DialString ATDT
> >> > PhoneNumber 6046380189
> >> > Autologin No
> >> > WaitFor1 name:
> >> > Response1 \u
> >> > WaitFor2 sword:
> >> > Response2 \p
> >> > WaitFor3 >
> >> > Response3 ppp
> >> > PPPusername xxxxx
> >> > PPPpassword xxxxx
> >> >
> >> > ;Port values: 0=non-standard serial (COM) port, 1-4 standard
> ports
> >> > ;Base values: 0x??? (eg. 0x3e8) - Base and Irq are used for
> "Port
> >> 0"
> >> > ;Mode values: databits/parity/stopbits (eg. 8N1)
> >> >
> >> > [tcp/ip]
> >> > IP_Address PPP
> >> > IP_Grab IP address set to
> >> > NameServer 207.102.64.23
> >> > AltNameServer 207.102.64.3
> >> > Gateway 0.0.0.0
> >> > AltGateway 0.0.0.0
> >> > Netmask 0.0.0.0
> >> > TCPconfig PPPTCP.CFG
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > VCN Help Desk
> >> > 411 Dunsmuir Street, 2nd Floor, Vancouver BC, Canada
> >> > Open Monday to Friday, 10 AM to 4 PM
> >> >
> >> > email: helpcn.bc.ca
> >> > voice: 604 257 3811 fax: 604 257 3808
> >> >
> >> > =========================================
> >> > VCN2111.EMI
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >>
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