The scissors are there. I delete them only to have them return as soon as the file is saved. ice_man21@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ed Orantes Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:54 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: unwanted trims Mr. Ice, Can you actually see the little trim icons (scissors) in the design "tree" when viewing the file in Design Shop? Or are witnessing these trims only as it sews the design on the machine? Ed -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005