Mr. Ice, Can you actually see the little trim icons (scissors) in the design "tree" when viewing the file in Design Shop? Or are witnessing these trims only as it sews the design on the machine? Ed -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of ice_man21 Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 6:48 PM To: Amayausers Subject: [amayausers] unwanted trims I have a question that may be simple for someone to answer. I seems like every time I convert anything to wireframe I get numerous trims I don't want or need. Design Shop will allow deleting and as soon as the file is saved it puts them all back in. These are a real pain in the back side. Can someone tell me how to get rid of these excess trims? Thanks so much ice_man21@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005