Ours is also tearaway John, and comes on a roll. Rod ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Yaglenski" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: hooping visors > Odd... We have bought the hat backing from both Melco Mart and AllStitch > and > it works great. Never used cutaway... No need to in my experience. Thick > tear away (the hat stuff is equal to about 2 heavy pieces of tear away) > seems to do the job just fine... > > Of course, YMMV (your mileage may vary) depending on the hat and > application. > > - - - - - > > John Yaglenski > Levelbest Embroidery > > I: levelbestembroidery.com > P: 301.591.2481 > P: 888.229.1779 > F: 781.998.6473 > > This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be > privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify > Levelbest, > immediately -- by replying to this message or by sending an e-mail to > embsales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- and destroy all copies of this > message and any attachments. Thank you. > > > JOHN > > -----Original Message----- > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod or Sharon > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:55 AM > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [amayausers] Re: hooping visors > > We purchase our "hat backing" on a roll so it isn't pre-cut pieces. We > cut > it to the length we want. > Rod > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:54 AM > Subject: [amayausers] Re: hooping visors > > >> We have a pack of the 'hat' backing...and it is too short to fit in >> the CCF! It just barely goes from 'teeth to teeth' on the grabbers, so >> as soon as you try to lay a hat down it slide off and then is useless. >> I've been cutting longer pieces off our 2 oz. tearaway or 3 oz. >> cutaway-the port authority 'ribbed' hats we just did yesterday ended >> up with the 3 oz.-too many stitch breaks with the 2 oz., even doubled >> up. >> >> Roland >> >> On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Rod or Sharon wrote: >> >>> Roland, >>> You are right in respect to the CCF(conventional cap frame) style of >>> cap frame restricting the width of the sewing field, hence the >>> introduction of the WACF(wide angle cap frame) for those extra wide >>> designs. >>> >>> For visors I use two layes of the 4 inch wide tear-a-way stabilizer >>> that is just made for the caps. It is stiff and heavy enough to >>> support the visor....kind of acts like the upper portion of the crown >>> of a cap for it to ride on. This has worked pretty well for us....... >>> >>> Rod Springer >>> >>> >>> Rod & Sharon Springer >>> Embroidery Cottage >>> Melco Amaya Technician & Trainers >>> Design Shop Pro+ & Digitizing >>> Boise, ID 83713 >>> 208-938-3038 >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:33 AM >>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: hooping visors >>> >>> >>>> If the brim was 3/4" narrower, I could hoop it backwards right in >>>> the CCF and hold it down...but the opening in the CCF isn't wide >>>> enough. >>>> What are you using for backing-couple of 3 oz.? Looks like it will >>>> really flop around. This is the Port Authority visor-made for >>>> comfort not for a sign...LOL so it has no stiffener inside it at all. >>>> Roland >>>> >>>> On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Image Embroidery wrote: >>>> >>>>> Roland, >>>>> >>>>> I use the SanMar visor and can normally get about 1 1/5 inches to >>>>> stitch on. >>>>> But I do not have a CCF, I only have the WACF and the new XT WACF. >>>>> >>>>> LuAnn >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:06 PM >>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: hooping visors >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I just tried to hoop a Port Authority (Sanmar) visor....on the CCF >>>>>> hoop. End up with maybe 3/4" material left to sew on? >>>>>> This is with the brim where it belongs against the hoop bar. >>>>>> Is this typical of limited sewing field on these? >>>>>> Anyone have some feedback on these? 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