I get my hat backing from CH Holderby in Seattle. THey have heavy 3 oz tearaway in 4" x 20" precut pieces. If we need 1 layer we cut it in half and if we need 2 we just fold in half. Works great and I couldn't imagine going any other way. Aaron Sargent The Linen Barn linen@xxxxxxxxxxx 541-770-2957 Medford, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:55 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: hooping visors > We purchase our "hat backing" on a roll so it isn't pre-cut pieces. We > cut > it to the length we want. > Rod > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:54 AM > Subject: [amayausers] Re: hooping visors > > >> We have a pack of the 'hat' backing...and it is too short to fit in >> the CCF! It just barely goes from 'teeth to teeth' on the grabbers, >> so as soon as you try to lay a hat down it slide off and then is >> useless. I've been cutting longer pieces off our 2 oz. tearaway or 3 >> oz. cutaway-the port authority 'ribbed' hats we just did yesterday >> ended up with the 3 oz.-too many stitch breaks with the 2 oz., even >> doubled up. >> >> Roland >> >> On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Rod or Sharon wrote: >> >>> Roland, >>> You are right in respect to the CCF(conventional cap frame) style >>> of cap >>> frame restricting the width of the sewing field, hence the >>> introduction of >>> the WACF(wide angle cap frame) for those extra wide designs. >>> >>> For visors I use two layes of the 4 inch wide tear-a-way stabilizer >>> that is >>> just made for the caps. It is stiff and heavy enough to support the >>> visor....kind of acts like the upper portion of the crown of a cap >>> for it to >>> ride on. This has worked pretty well for us....... >>> >>> Rod Springer >>> >>> >>> Rod & Sharon Springer >>> Embroidery Cottage >>> Melco Amaya Technician & Trainers >>> Design Shop Pro+ & Digitizing >>> Boise, ID 83713 >>> 208-938-3038 >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:33 AM >>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: hooping visors >>> >>> >>>> If the brim was 3/4" narrower, I could hoop it backwards right in the >>>> CCF and hold it down...but the opening in the CCF isn't wide enough. >>>> What are you using for backing-couple of 3 oz.? Looks like it will >>>> really flop around. This is the Port Authority visor-made for comfort >>>> not for a sign...LOL so it has no stiffener inside it at all. >>>> Roland >>>> >>>> On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Image Embroidery wrote: >>>> >>>>> Roland, >>>>> >>>>> I use the SanMar visor and can normally get about 1 1/5 inches to >>>>> stitch on. >>>>> But I do not have a CCF, I only have the WACF and the new XT WACF. >>>>> >>>>> LuAnn >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:06 PM >>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: hooping visors >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I just tried to hoop a Port Authority (Sanmar) visor....on the CCF >>>>>> hoop. End up with maybe 3/4" material left to sew on? >>>>>> This is with the brim where it belongs against the hoop bar. >>>>>> Is this typical of limited sewing field on these? >>>>>> Anyone have some feedback on these? 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