[access-uk] Re: selling a jaws license

Dear Jackie

Personal attacks are one thing but Apple so much beloved have margins for their 
products (particularly IOS devices) somewhere in the 50 percent region and that 
is even selling direct to consumers never mind if you buy from a non Apple 
retail outlet.

Regards.

Tristram Llewellyn
Technical Support
Sight and Sound Technology



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Jackie Cairns
Sent: 18 June 2012 14:36
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: selling a jaws license

Hi Barry

That's how I feel.  I'm happy to pay my fair share for items I need or want
when I can afford them, and wait till I can before I do.  But, as I said
earlier, it encourages piracy.  It's difficult for any screen reading
technology to be 100% perfect, that's not going to happen due to many
complexities of graphical software.  But, like you, I would rather have an
application that isn't over-inflated in both price and "features" most
people never use.  You'll find the usual FS rollout at SV next month,
applauding their own new bells and whistles in JAWS 14, while they are
probably busy back in the States trying to take GW Micro to task over
something they are happy to spend millions of dollars arguing the toss over
in the law courts.  No wonder they can charge £75 to transfer a licence, not
to mention the upgrade fee to the latest version before they alter their
database.

It's easy to talk about R and D, support etc when your employers rake in a
40% markup on every copy of JAWS alone.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barry Hill
Sent: 18 June 2012 14:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: selling a jaws license

I understand that there should be an admin  cost to transfer the licence,
and it is necessary to transfer the licence to give the new owner the proper
support.  Still, £75 does seem rather expensive to cover such admin costs.

What I do object to is having to update the licence to the current version,
and I don't believe that Tristren's argument holds water.  What is the
difference between me having an older version and not updating, and me
passing that older version on to another person?  It is just a scam to
squeeze more money out of disabled people.  

However, rather than FS's practice making them money, I would argue that it
is counter-productive.  With such a penalty on selling on licences, how many
people will do it legitimately?  I imagine that it's very few.  Also,
knowing that FS have a punitive practice is not good advertising.  Is it a
wonder that they are losing their market share?  In a recent survey, they
are down from something like 80% of the market at their height to 52% now.

Jaws is good and I do appreciate the research and development, but do we
need the R&D to be giving us bloatware with bells and whistles, or do we
just need it to just work with current applications?

I would have thought that less irrelevant R&D that seems only there to
justify the cost of upgrades, less punitive practices, and lower prices,
then Jaws might stay market leader for a long time to come.

Right, I'll come down off my soap box now.


Cheers

Barry




 

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: 18 June 2012 11:13 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: selling a jaws license

Hi Derek

If you have a copy of a software licence, and remember it's only a licence
of that software, you don't own it, you have to notify the vendor to keep it
above board.  I'm not in any way against notifying the relevant parties, and
ensuring the recipient's name and correct number of keys are accounted for.
But I would strongly object to paying £75 for the privilege, in addition to
having to update to the latest version first, that's just milking it.  But
it's just my take on it, some will agree, and others won't.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Derek Hornby
Sent: 18 June 2012 10:22
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: selling a jaws license

Hi  Jackie
Sorry to ask silly  question but why would anyone want to sell ownership of
a licence for jaws.

I mean,  if say you sold me  your computer, surely that Also means I Get
whatever  software you have left on it Such as windows any  whatever screen
reader you had  on it.


Regards,  Derek  

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