[access-uk] Re: e: Re: Zoomtext users
- From: Jane Taylor <jayne_taylor14@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:34:59 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Ray
Zoomtext is not a screen reader and looks like it never will be quite honestly.
true the new voices are pleasant but for me i would be happier if thye made
the Zoomtext control panel accessible, it is so annoying having to use the
mouse in the control panel all the time. Surely AI Squared would be able to
put a tab order for this element?
With regards the web support, try using it on a complicated web page like BBC;
the reading order is still wrong.
Not happy with another costly SMA life for more bugs!
Jayne
Justin R <mypc128@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Ray,
Well, I can say that the new neospeech is great for the screenreading part.
It's so human sounding, almost like the AT&T voices. It actually does not
speak out the < and > when reading a newspost or reading out someone elses
e-mail to quote them. That's great as, truvoice will always read them out
and, it's so annoying. It stops me from reading previously quoted e-mails.
However, neospeech is not entirely clear in prenounciation all the time.
Plus, it's such a fine sound that any excess external noise makes it hard
for me to hear what its saying. HOwever, it's worth Aisquared keeping this
voice package and developing it further.
ZT anounces a lot of what's going on, on screan, it always tells you where
you are. Plus, there is the webfinder, that produces a list of links on
each webpage. Now. beta 9 executes this better than 8.1 does. It
identifies links in webpages quicker then the current full version. There's
the desktop finder too. That, with some keyboard short cuts, brings up the
list of all what's on the computer, all folders and, you can access my
documents and anything that way. I don't use it personally as, I don't see
i need this as opposed to the webfinder which, is a lot more helpful to me.
There is this new Xfont thingie. All I know is, from what i see on screan
that it seems to make the text, any text finer, more defined, emboldened a
little, prenounced maybe. NOt sure how to describe it but, it helps to make
words on screan more readable. This helps me out initially but, I still
have a struggle reading of screan for more than a couple of minutes anyway.
However, it's great for small amounts of reading, makes it easier too.
I expect you know about appreader Ray? That was a god send since version
8.0 Docreader was never meant for reading e-mails and webpages. Not much
has changed with appreader. It does the job well though. pdf files can
mostly be red OK although, dependng on their design depends on how appreader
will read them out. I think appreader's ability to read pdf files may have
ever so slightly advanced from the 8.1 version when zt could read pdfs. I
don't use pdfs much myself so, that's not easy to judge at all.
hope some of this helps Ray
Justin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home"
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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: [access-uk] e: Re: Zoomtext users
> What IS going on with this list? Another message that didn't make it.
> Sigh.
>
> Folks, you make me think I'll give Zoomtext 9 Beta a try. Wonder if
> anyone would care to give an opinion on its screen reader aspects? I know
> it is NOT a screen reader as such, but for those who have some usable
> sight it sure is a good approach to maximising one's use of sight and
> hearing.
>
> What struck me about the new version more than anything else is the long
> awaited, by me, context files; i.e. having settings specific to the
> program in use. That has to be a good move.
> Ray
>
> Personal emails: Email me at
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jane Taylor
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Hi Peter
>
> Trust me it doesn't i wish I had stayed with the reliable version 7.x.
> What's even more annoying is the lack of real new features for the SMA
> money.
>
> Jayne
> Peter Logue
wrote:
> Thanks Justin. Glad I'm not alone. Perhaps version 9 will relieve a lot
> of
> problems.
>
> Peter from sunny Ontario.
>
>
> Ray
>
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