Goodness knows. How about a vibrating insole in your shoe? After all, we already pick up tactile information that way with blister paving and the like. You could spread information from left foot to right foot depending on where obstacles are. I had a quick go with a bat cane once but felt my own echo location was better and I didn't need to do any on-the-fly interpreting of sounds. Depending on the gadget, there's also a big worry that I'll look like a bit of a prat. There's no way I'll be wearing anything or moving differently in order to play with a gizmo. I think the way forward is electronic mapping of areas. So, at Paddington station, I'd tap into my mobile phone that I want to go to platform 10 and it creates a virtual line through the air, a piece of invisible electronic string slung across some coordinates, which I then follow either by use of a tone which tells me whether I'm warm or cold, or by a vibration. The more it vibrates, the closer to the line that I have to follow, I am. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Meijer Sent: 16 March 2010 13:27 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: brain port question Hi Damon and all, I read all posts concerning the media frenzy about the BrainPort with interest. Being well aware that real progress takes much time, and being the developer of an alternative to the BrainPort device, I am seriously interested in finding the right ways to go about and in the longer run make a difference, with the input from blind users. I'd welcome any ideas that you may have on making the path a bit smoother while leaving room for exploring new possibilities that may or may not pan out as we go. Best regards, Peter Meijer Seeing with Sound - The vOICe http://www.seeingwithsound.com > I've gotta say that a tongue device is possibly the poorest example of a > scientific breakthrough that I've heard of, around sight loss. If this > is society's best answer, and they've put in oodles of research to get > this far, then god help us. It really feels like duplication of work > too. This isn't new ... But the tongue as interface is new. There have > been devices previously which cast vibrating images on your back, for > instance, why is the tongue any better? I'd suggest it's far worse. And > antisocial to boot, as well as possibly a choking hazard. > > Does anyone remember that episode of South Park where Mr Garrison > invents a new mode of flying transport that involves putting something > up an unmentionable area? Seriously, it'll be on its way folks. Anal > navigation for the blind and it'll be given just as much media coverage > and sold as a breakthrough. And the media will buy it. Again. > > ...Damon ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq