[access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers

Sad to see a great list being dragged down to this level.!



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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
william lomas
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:35 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers

if you have a problem with a list ember tell her off list. she has a  
right to be "boring" like the rest of us if you that pissed off heard  
of a delete key? i guess not

On 31 Jul 2009, at 11:32, Scott C wrote:

> Also your endless emails are bloody boring and do my head in.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jackie Cairns - Email Address: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent On: 31/07/2009 11:12
> Sent To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
>
> Hi Eleanor
>
> I mean this with the utmost respect, but you should take your
> disagreements and grievances off public lists such as this and deal
> directly with the appropriate person/department.  As you are, or were,
> studying law, I do not need to remind you that publicising your  
> feelings
> in this way on a public forum is dangerous, and has legal  
> implications.
>
> I really urge you to refrain from sending Emails to any public lists
> airing your views in this way.  I am not a moderator, nor claim to do
> their job, but feel you are entering dangerous waters with some of  
> your
> comments or when reproducing information that was sent to you  
> privately.
>
> No offence whatsoever intended, just a personal plea that you need  
> to be
> careful!
> Jackie Cairns
> Braille Specialist
> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
> Welton House North Wing
> Summerhouse Road
> Moulton Park
> Northampton
> NN3 6WD
> Tel: 01604 798024
> Mob: 07887 883815
> www.sightandsound.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On  
> Behalf
> Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 30 July 2009 07:08
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
>
> I an very interested in this discussion on difficulty with access to
> employment for disabled people. As a disabled student at the Open
> University people might be interested to know that I was suspended  
> from
> the university on 17 July 2009 amd effectively thrown out. Did I get a
> Hearing? Certainly not! I got a letter throwing me out. I also got a
> letter from the Regional Director of the Open University in London who
> gave me a final warning amd cut off my access to communication with  
> Open
> University law students. Where was the prior warnings? There were  
> none.
> This person is going through my file with the aim of dicipling me. All
> of this flies in the face of natural justice. My offences are as
> follows:
> I want to know the number of students who have sat 50 per cent of the
> third level law course W 300 since its inception 9 years ago.
> I want to know why Special Arrangements were not made for me as a
> disabled student in the last course I did in 2008 which I failed  
> despite
> having done very well throughout the assessments over the year.
> I an firmly of the opinion that the university threw me out because  
> they
> wanted to silence me on the issue of 50 per cent re-sit of an
> examination. I discovered that students had been allowed to do this
> which was hush hush.
> I an not now going to be able to sit an exam amd pass it this year  
> as I
> an currently out amd the way the Open University works is that
> assignments have to be put in every month. My next one is due on 12
> August but I will still be out!
> I have Appealed to the Senate of the University for lifting of my
> suspension. Meeting not until 1 September. There are going to be 2
> students on the panel. I wrote today saying that one of these students
> should be blind, female amd the same age as myself. What do others  
> feel?
> In terms of information technology I communicate with fellow students
> over the university website but they have stopped me being able to do
> this. I have been unregistered amd isolated. I an a disabled student  
> amd
> thrown out amd not one staff member within the university has given me
> an opportunity to speak. So from 17 July until 1 September I an being
> punished without a hearing amd my chance of doing amd passing my  
> course
> this year are gone. I managed to obtain my course material
> electronically but only after much ado amd a written apology from the
> university. Someone wrote to the university on my behalf about the
> course material in alternative format. This was before I managed to  
> get
> the material in alt  ernative format. The university wrote back to  
> this
> Professor telling him that 2 senior members of the law faculty visited
> me in my home! I had to get the Open University to write back to the
> Professor to say the information that 2 staff members visited me in my
> home was not true. A total case of discrimination. I can assure  
> everyone
> that I have not had gross misconduct which I have been temporarily if
> not permanently removed for from the university. There is no guarantee
> that my suspension will be lifted.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
> From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 30/07/2009 6:04 pm
>
> HIBarbra and all.
>
> I am in a similar situation to will, and have gone for job interviews
> and also have gone on govt schemes to help get into work.  Now let me
> relay aa few stories.  I went on the new deal for disabled people.   
> The
> DEA basically threw me at employers and said, the law says you cannot
> discriminate, so employ him.  Most employers were enthusiastic until
> they actually had to do soemthing to help me over and above their  
> usual,
> then they binned me, after about three days in one case.  Then I  
> went on
> another scheme that afbp told me was accessible to blind.  Turned out
> they weren't, and that they were in it for the EU money.  I went in
> dressed in a suit, with laptop, copy of jaws on pendrive, for SATOGO  
> and
> SA weren't known to me then, and with NRA in hand.  I was first asked,
> where's your carer, then when I told them I'd lived on my own for  
> years,
> they dropped that question.  I explained about jaws for windows, and
> about what it was.  They wouldn't let me install it.
> In the end, I had to jobsearch with my own computer.  They could not
> even make the course amterials in accessible format.  About the only
> thing this place did was give me funding to do voluntary work with a
> riding stable.
> Now they were meant to come to the stable to check I was actually  
> doing
> the work, and did they?  No.  They were meant to get in touch with my
> boss, but tdid they?  No.  I spent six mmonths doing my part of the
> thing, while they did nothing.  This was another govt scheme btw,  
> and at
> one point, they tried to claim that giving me an ethernet cable to  
> allow
> me to connect to their intrnet was accessibily, and they'd complied  
> with
> the Dda because of this.
> Hmm, no.  AFBP blew hot air at this company, but that was it.  And  
> yes,
> this was new labour.  I am going for an nvq this september, and I  
> wonder
> if AFBP
> will help me if I get into trouble with access?   Probably not.
>
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