[access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
- From: "Terry Clasper" <terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:10:05 +0100
Sad to see a great list being dragged down to this level.!
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william lomas
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:35 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
if you have a problem with a list ember tell her off list. she has a
right to be "boring" like the rest of us if you that pissed off heard
of a delete key? i guess not
On 31 Jul 2009, at 11:32, Scott C wrote:
> Also your endless emails are bloody boring and do my head in.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jackie Cairns - Email Address: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent On: 31/07/2009 11:12
> Sent To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
>
> Hi Eleanor
>
> I mean this with the utmost respect, but you should take your
> disagreements and grievances off public lists such as this and deal
> directly with the appropriate person/department. As you are, or were,
> studying law, I do not need to remind you that publicising your
> feelings
> in this way on a public forum is dangerous, and has legal
> implications.
>
> I really urge you to refrain from sending Emails to any public lists
> airing your views in this way. I am not a moderator, nor claim to do
> their job, but feel you are entering dangerous waters with some of
> your
> comments or when reproducing information that was sent to you
> privately.
>
> No offence whatsoever intended, just a personal plea that you need
> to be
> careful!
> Jackie Cairns
> Braille Specialist
> Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
> Welton House North Wing
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> NN3 6WD
> Tel: 01604 798024
> Mob: 07887 883815
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 30 July 2009 07:08
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
>
> I an very interested in this discussion on difficulty with access to
> employment for disabled people. As a disabled student at the Open
> University people might be interested to know that I was suspended
> from
> the university on 17 July 2009 amd effectively thrown out. Did I get a
> Hearing? Certainly not! I got a letter throwing me out. I also got a
> letter from the Regional Director of the Open University in London who
> gave me a final warning amd cut off my access to communication with
> Open
> University law students. Where was the prior warnings? There were
> none.
> This person is going through my file with the aim of dicipling me. All
> of this flies in the face of natural justice. My offences are as
> follows:
> I want to know the number of students who have sat 50 per cent of the
> third level law course W 300 since its inception 9 years ago.
> I want to know why Special Arrangements were not made for me as a
> disabled student in the last course I did in 2008 which I failed
> despite
> having done very well throughout the assessments over the year.
> I an firmly of the opinion that the university threw me out because
> they
> wanted to silence me on the issue of 50 per cent re-sit of an
> examination. I discovered that students had been allowed to do this
> which was hush hush.
> I an not now going to be able to sit an exam amd pass it this year
> as I
> an currently out amd the way the Open University works is that
> assignments have to be put in every month. My next one is due on 12
> August but I will still be out!
> I have Appealed to the Senate of the University for lifting of my
> suspension. Meeting not until 1 September. There are going to be 2
> students on the panel. I wrote today saying that one of these students
> should be blind, female amd the same age as myself. What do others
> feel?
> In terms of information technology I communicate with fellow students
> over the university website but they have stopped me being able to do
> this. I have been unregistered amd isolated. I an a disabled student
> amd
> thrown out amd not one staff member within the university has given me
> an opportunity to speak. So from 17 July until 1 September I an being
> punished without a hearing amd my chance of doing amd passing my
> course
> this year are gone. I managed to obtain my course material
> electronically but only after much ado amd a written apology from the
> university. Someone wrote to the university on my behalf about the
> course material in alternative format. This was before I managed to
> get
> the material in alt ernative format. The university wrote back to
> this
> Professor telling him that 2 senior members of the law faculty visited
> me in my home! I had to get the Open University to write back to the
> Professor to say the information that 2 staff members visited me in my
> home was not true. A total case of discrimination. I can assure
> everyone
> that I have not had gross misconduct which I have been temporarily if
> not permanently removed for from the university. There is no guarantee
> that my suspension will be lifted.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
> From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 30/07/2009 6:04 pm
>
> HIBarbra and all.
>
> I am in a similar situation to will, and have gone for job interviews
> and also have gone on govt schemes to help get into work. Now let me
> relay aa few stories. I went on the new deal for disabled people.
> The
> DEA basically threw me at employers and said, the law says you cannot
> discriminate, so employ him. Most employers were enthusiastic until
> they actually had to do soemthing to help me over and above their
> usual,
> then they binned me, after about three days in one case. Then I
> went on
> another scheme that afbp told me was accessible to blind. Turned out
> they weren't, and that they were in it for the EU money. I went in
> dressed in a suit, with laptop, copy of jaws on pendrive, for SATOGO
> and
> SA weren't known to me then, and with NRA in hand. I was first asked,
> where's your carer, then when I told them I'd lived on my own for
> years,
> they dropped that question. I explained about jaws for windows, and
> about what it was. They wouldn't let me install it.
> In the end, I had to jobsearch with my own computer. They could not
> even make the course amterials in accessible format. About the only
> thing this place did was give me funding to do voluntary work with a
> riding stable.
> Now they were meant to come to the stable to check I was actually
> doing
> the work, and did they? No. They were meant to get in touch with my
> boss, but tdid they? No. I spent six mmonths doing my part of the
> thing, while they did nothing. This was another govt scheme btw,
> and at
> one point, they tried to claim that giving me an ethernet cable to
> allow
> me to connect to their intrnet was accessibily, and they'd complied
> with
> the Dda because of this.
> Hmm, no. AFBP blew hot air at this company, but that was it. And
> yes,
> this was new labour. I am going for an nvq this september, and I
> wonder
> if AFBP
> will help me if I get into trouble with access? Probably not.
>
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