[access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
- From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:37:36 +0100
Saquib,
Yes you have a case, if the access tec, jaws is unfit for use, IE it's too
old, and they insist you use it, it's tant amount to not having the right
access for the job, so is discrimination. Though the DDA is civil law, so
the CPS won't take criminal case to court. You have to get them to either
get so embarrissed they back down, or get a charity to take case to court,
unless you have v deep pockets and can take the case yourself. This civil,
rather than criminal legeslation is the problem with the DDA as a whole.
Ok, onto the vigenaccess list.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Saqib
Sent: 30 July 2009 19:20
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
Hi Martain It would be a good idea if we carry this on the vi-genaccess
list. That list is made for topics like this. I'm going back into education
in September and I am denied the opportunity to use my System Access key as
SA is my preferred choice of screen reader. They say I can't use my U3 key
as using portable devices is an security issue and I must use a copy of the
recommended Jaws which I hardly ever use. Their argument is that Jaws is
installed on one of the machines and that covers their arse as far as
supplying accessibility. What if it isn't the latest version of Jaws and
doesn't work well with the latest internet content which no doubt I'll be
using for researching materials online? Do I still have an argument in which
I want to use SA as I feel totally at ease using that screen reader.
----- Original Message -----
From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
> HIBarbra and all.
>
> I am in a similar situation to will, and have gone for job interviews
> and also have gone on govt schemes to help get into work. Now let me
> relay aa few stories. I went on the new deal for disabled people.
> The DEA basically threw me at employers and said, the law says you
> cannot discriminate, so employ him. Most employers were enthusiastic
> until they actually had to do soemthing to help me over and above
> their usual, then they binned me, after about three days in one case.
> Then I went on another scheme that afbp told me was accessible to
> blind. Turned out they weren't, and that they were in it for the EU
> money. I went in dressed in a suit, with laptop, copy of jaws on
> pendrive, for SATOGO and SA weren't known to me then, and with NRA in
> hand. I was first asked, where's your carer, then when I told them
> I'd lived on my own for years, they dropped that question. I
> explained about jaws for windows, and about what it was. They wouldn't
let me install it.
> In the end, I had to jobsearch with my own computer. They could not
> even make the course amterials in accessible format. About the only
> thing this place did was give me funding to do voluntary work with a
riding stable.
> Now they were meant to come to the stable to check I was actually
> doing the work, and did they? No. They were meant to get in touch
> with my boss, but tdid they? No. I spent six mmonths doing my part
> of the thing, while they did nothing. This was another govt scheme
> btw, and at one point, they tried to claim that giving me an ethernet
> cable to allow me to connect to their intrnet was accessibily, and
> they'd complied with the Dda because of this.
> Hmm, no. AFBP blew hot air at this company, but that was it. And
> yes, this was new labour. I am going for an nvq this september, and I
> wonder if AFBP
> will help me if I get into trouble with access? Probably not.
>
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