HI Barbra: This is why vol workers often see their jobs go to paid employees other than themvselves when and if their job gets paid status. But what do we do? This govt want us doing work, but they believe sanxions on disabled people is the way forward. Hmm, we are a country who hates disabled maybe? Original Messa From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 30 July 2009 18:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers Martin, a lot of these schemes are as you say just a way of getting Government or European funding. they'll have no problem finding you voluntary work as their expectations of disabled people are so low they think that's all we are fit for. A person could work voluntarily all their life and some organisations even will say, in a round about way, you have your benefits so what's wrong with that? Well to my mind voluntary is okay for a short term to build a person's skills and confidence, but any longer than short term and it becomes exploitation. Sadly I know many disabled adults who get up every morning and do a full day's work and have done all their adult life, and they are still on benefits and don't get paid a penny. Now if that job was advertised, the employer who was quite happy to let them work for nothing, would then say they do not have the relevant qualifications and skills to be employed. I'm not just saying this off the top of my head, I know people to whom it has happened. Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:04 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers > HIBarbra and all. > > I am in a similar situation to will, and have gone for job interviews and > also have gone on govt schemes to help get into work. Now let me relay aa > few stories. I went on the new deal for disabled people. The DEA > basically > threw me at employers and said, the law says you cannot discriminate, so > employ him. Most employers were enthusiastic until they actually had to > do > soemthing to help me over and above their usual, then they binned me, > after > about three days in one case. Then I went on another scheme that afbp > told > me was accessible to blind. Turned out they weren't, and that they were > in > it for the EU money. I went in dressed in a suit, with laptop, copy of > jaws > on pendrive, for SATOGO and SA weren't known to me then, and with NRA in > hand. I was first asked, where's your carer, then when I told them I'd > lived on my own for years, they dropped that question. I explained about > jaws for windows, and about what it was. They wouldn't let me install it. > In the end, I had to jobsearch with my own computer. They could not even > make the course amterials in accessible format. About the only thing this > place did was give me funding to do voluntary work with a riding stable. > Now they were meant to come to the stable to check I was actually doing > the > work, and did they? No. They were meant to get in touch with my boss, > but > tdid they? No. I spent six mmonths doing my part of the thing, while > they > did nothing. This was another govt scheme btw, and at one point, they > tried > to claim that giving me an ethernet cable to allow me to connect to their > intrnet was accessibily, and they'd complied with the Dda because of this. > Hmm, no. AFBP blew hot air at this company, but that was it. And yes, > this > was new labour. I am going for an nvq this september, and I wonder if > AFBP > will help me if I get into trouble with access? 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