[access-uk] Re: accessibility of cash machines was Re: Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
- From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:11:20 +0100
hi, i came across an interesting one a couple of weeks ago. i used a cash
machine, in warwick service station from memory. i discovered that the
machine had braille on it. great i thought, until i realised the braille
was on the slots for your card, your receipt and your money. these aren't
much use unless you can use the machine itself! smile.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] accessibility of cash machines was Re: Re: Fw: Disabled
People and Chip and Pin
> Hi.
>
> Thinking about this one, it would be awkward at the moment.
>
> You would need to be using a cash point and holding your mobile as well.
> You would be a mugger's dream.
>
> This being said, I don't see why the banks could not have accessible
> documents on their websites containing step by step guides on how to use
> their own machines. That way if you knew which machine you would have to
> use you could download information about that machine either at home
before
> you set out or on your mobile while you are out. This could apply to much
> more than cash machines of course. it could work with fast ticket
machines
> and vending machines too.
>
> This is not of course perfect as not everyone has access to the web or wap
> pages and remembering long sequences of keys can be difficult but in the
> short term, accessible documents with information about key sequences
would
> be a start and a positive step forward.
> Graham Page
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:53 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
>
>
> hi, if the speech could be incorporated into a mobile, then fine. but it
> would seem like a lot of fiddle and fuss (possibly even expense) just to
put
> in a 4 digit pin code to do your weekly shopping! smile. now if it could
be
> developed to cover other, currently inaccessible/awkward facilities, then
> i'm all for it. cash machines, those self service ticket machines on train
> stations, things like that, then it would be a real step forward!
> Kevin - owner of the audyssey gamers discussion list at:
> www.audyssey.org
> contact me via email/msn:
> kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:50 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
>
>
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > I agree with you regarding Chip and Pin, I much prefer it. However,
> speech
> > could come from any number of places. How 'bout your Talks-enabled
mobile
> > phone? Imagine having a Bluetooth transmitter on the terminal, which
sent
> > the information directly to your phone? Talks talking to you in an
> > earpiece? I don't know whether it is going to ever happen, but this
would
> > be by no means technologically impossible. And you always carry your
> phone
> > around. Forget special boxes, I think this would be the way to go.
> >
> > All the best
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> > kevin and emma
> > Sent: 28 March 2006 15:00
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
> >
> > hi, and of course this little box will be free? ... not! not too mention
> > another thing to carry around with us. and what would happen if you lost
> > this box? or it developed a fault? or for some reason it wouldn't work
and
> > you had a queue of 20 people behind you? you'd have to ask the cashier
to
> > help which you can do already for free! in other words, you'd be back to
> > square one anyway, i really don't see why people have a problem with
> asking
> > for help when it's required!if anything it's easier with chip and pin.
no
> > problem with having to ask where the line is, double checking to make
sure
> > your in the right place, hoping that the pen works first time and that
> your
> > signatures readable etc etc.
> > it doesn't matter what technology is developed, or what improvement are
> made
> > to chip and pin, not everyone will agree with it. i for one aprove of it
> and
> > it's just a pity it took so long to come about. good riddance to the
pen!
> > smile.
> > Kevin - owner of the audyssey gamers discussion list at:
> > www.audyssey.org
> > contact me via email/msn:
> > kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:58 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
> >
> >
> > > > what is the point of speech if it just says star?
> > >
> > > It tells you when to enter your pin, confirms that you have entered
the
> > > digits correctly, tells you if you when you an remove your card or if
> you
> > > have made a mistake etc.
> > >
> > > Anyway I remember reading something a while ago suggesting that in the
> > > future speech on units like this might come from some sort of speech
box
> > we
> > > carry with us, rather than from the units themselves, which would all
> use
> > a
> > > common standard to communicate with the speech box. we shall see...
> > >
> > > James
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