[access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:23:19 +0100
Well Yusuf, I was making a general point arising out of my impression that it
might be a proud sort of independence with some as to why they are less than
happy with help from a cashier or whoever. In any case, I believe that when
you come to think about it 'independence' in a strictly self-sufficient
interpretation is pretty unworkable anyway.
As for Braille menus, well we could start another thread there. I can read
Braille, and I also benefit from large print, but I do not really feel
affronted by the lack of menus in either of these formats. I'm happy to take
up staff time with someone going through the menu, or a friend doing so.
Admittedly there is an art to how they are read out, i.e. I prefer them to go
through the headings first, and when I've ascertained the things I definitely
am not interested in we can go through the things I am interested in. Its not
ideal, but I cannot for the life of me envisage Braille in particular keeping
up with every change in a menu which might occur in the space of a few weeks or
less.
In short, I'd far rather have proper staffing levels and staff who are well
chosen for their patience and willingness to be helpful, rather than stand on
the principle of accessible formats in these situations.
Ray
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----- Original Message -----
From: "yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Ray, Its nothing to do with being proud, at least in my case it isn't. Its
: simply accessability. By that argument why have Braille menues in
: restaurants and pubs.
: Yusuf
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
:
:
: We seem to be going all round the houses with this one, and we've done it
: before too!
:
: Tristram is right of course. Human assistance, usually helpful is there at
: the cash point. Don't be afraid or too proud to use it.
:
: On the question of devices communicating wirelessly with a very small device
: we carry around, ; don't dismiss this idea too lightly. I could forsee, or
: is it dream? of a device that could do this and more. Why not something
: combining EPOS communication with electronic signage - if only this pathetic
: country could get its act together and enable us to identify things when out
: and about. Maybe too it could be combined and work alongside Sat Nav.
: Handheld Sat nav devices are already around I believe, and there's even been
: talk, (pub unintended) that a talking hand-held sat nav device might become
: available, I mean a truly hand held one, that is. Dream on.
: Ray
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