[access-uk] Re: accessibility of cash machines was Re: Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin

  • From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:14:08 +0100

The problem is that the same bank will use different models of cash machines in different branches/outlets.

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] accessibility of cash machines was Re: Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin


Hi.

Thinking about this one, it would be awkward at the moment.

You would need to be using a cash point and holding your mobile as well.
You would be a mugger's dream.

This being said, I don't see why the banks could not have accessible
documents on their websites containing step by step guides on how to use
their own machines. That way if you knew which machine you would have to
use you could download information about that machine either at home before
you set out or on your mobile while you are out. This could apply to much
more than cash machines of course. it could work with fast ticket machines
and vending machines too.

This is not of course perfect as not everyone has access to the web or wap
pages and remembering long sequences of keys can be difficult but in the
short term, accessible documents with information about key sequences would
be a start and a positive step forward.
Graham Page

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----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:53 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin


hi, if the speech could be incorporated into a mobile, then fine. but it
would seem like a lot of fiddle and fuss (possibly even expense) just to put
in a 4 digit pin code to do your weekly shopping! smile. now if it could be
developed to cover other, currently inaccessible/awkward facilities, then
i'm all for it. cash machines, those self service ticket machines on train
stations, things like that, then it would be a real step forward!
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin


Hi Kevin,

I agree with you regarding Chip and Pin, I much prefer it. However,
speech
could come from any number of places. How 'bout your Talks-enabled mobile
phone? Imagine having a Bluetooth transmitter on the terminal, which sent
the information directly to your phone? Talks talking to you in an
earpiece? I don't know whether it is going to ever happen, but this would
be by no means technologically impossible. And you always carry your
phone 
around.  Forget special boxes, I think this would be the way to go.

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-----Original Message-----
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kevin and emma
Sent: 28 March 2006 15:00
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin

hi, and of course this little box will be free? ... not! not too mention
another thing to carry around with us. and what would happen if you lost
this box? or it developed a fault? or for some reason it wouldn't work and
you had a queue of 20 people behind you? you'd have to ask the cashier to
help which you can do already for free! in other words, you'd be back to
square one anyway, i really don't see why people have a problem with
asking
for help when it's required!if anything it's easier with chip and pin. no
problem with having to ask where the line is, double checking to make sure
your in the right place, hoping that the pen works first time and that
your 
signatures readable etc etc.
it doesn't matter what technology is developed, or what improvement are
made
to chip and pin, not everyone will agree with it. i for one aprove of it
and 
it's just a pity it took so long to come about. good riddance to the pen!
smile.
Kevin - owner of the audyssey gamers discussion list at:
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----- Original Message -----
From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:58 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin


> > what is the point of speech if it just says star?
>
> It tells you when to enter your pin, confirms that you have entered the
> digits correctly, tells you if you when you an remove your card or if
you
> have made a mistake etc.
>
> Anyway I remember reading something a while ago suggesting that in the
> future speech on units like this might come from some sort of speech > box
we
> carry with us, rather than from the units themselves, which would all
use
a
> common standard to communicate with the speech box. we shall see...
>
> James
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