Hi Adrian, and interesting you mention the free screen reader. Its most likely the developments being promoted by Roger Wilson-Hines of Choice technology at: http://www.screenreader.co.uk/ Interestingly, a presentation by Roger Wilson Hines and Paul Blenkhorn, (ex-Dolphin software developer)was given at Vision 2005 and some of the thinking of Roger - and the powers that be - is summarised at: http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/PublicWebsite/public_v 2005abstractsmonday.hcsp Sorry for the long, wrapping URL but it should work alright. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Adrian Higginbotham Doris - might be worth holding out for a little bit longer as a UK based low-cost access solution company are launching a free screenreader in July. Afraid I don't at this point in time know any more that that. Adrian Higginbotham Accessibility and inclusion adviser Oh, I'm not talking about the demo version. I have played around with the trial version here for a bit without ever activating a freedom box trial account and system access ran in 20-minute demo mode. I was asking about the full version of access like the version that comes on a usb stick. i have no intention or interst to suscribe to the freedombox network but am looking for a screen access solution that is portable and easy to use and works on all version of widnows. system access promises to do just that and I was wondering if one spent the US$395 or US$595 for the passkey or usb drive version, if system access would continue to work as a standlone screenreader and not just in demo mode. I don't care about upgrades at tthis point and of course if upgrades are not paid for, I wouldn't expect to get them just as I don't expect FS to pass out free full upgrades to their product. <g> It's just cool that System Access works without need for a wideo hook. If Microslop had done a decent job on Narrator, Narrator could be doing the same thing. Thanks much. Doris At 07:00 PM 5/19/2006 +0100, you wrote: >My trial is about to run out, so might be able to let you know in a >couple of days. > >Vince. >----- Original Message ----- From: "Chipmunks" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx> >To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:01 AM >Subject: [access-uk] Re: System Access > > >>I am a little late getting in on this thread. >> >>I would like to know if System Access can be used as a screenreader >>independent of a current account with the Freedom Box network, i.e. >>will system access continue to function as a screenereader once the >>subscription to Freedom Box has expired? >> >>Thanks much. >> >>Doris >>At 11:06 PM 5/18/2006 +0100, you wrote: >> >>>Hi Vince, >>> >>>I have more crashes with JAWS when I use it, than System Access. >>> >>>All the best >>>-- >>>Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. >>>Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 >>>International: +44(0)1438 742286, >>>Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 >>>mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, >>>Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>Behalf Of Vince Thacker >>>Sent: 18 May 2006 18:58 >>>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: System Access >>> >>>Yes, Ted, and it's one of the reasons I'm probably not going to buy >>>into the Freedom Box thing, nice as it is in many ways. >>> >>>It seems to happen when I'm trying to do several things at a time and >>>memory is a bit short. But I've had freeze-ups with System Access >>>that are more serious, and that's a real put-=off, or even off-put. >>> >>>Vince >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Ted Martin" <tedmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:48 PM >>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: System Access >>> >>> >>> > That's right Steve, but Frank was asking how to launch system >>> access > when >>> > starting windows. >>> > >>> > The only trouble I have with S-A is when using it without Freedom >>> > Box, which is most of the time, it sometimes stops talking for no >>> > apparent reason. Do you ever get that? >>> > >>> > Ted >>> > >>> > At 21:35 17/05/06, you wrote: >>> > >>> >>And if you already have System Access running, you can get to >>> the >>System >>> >>Access properties, by pressing Caps Lock and F, or any of the >>> >>System Access modifier keys with F. That bit was covered in the >>> >>review. >>> >> >>> >>All the best >>> >>-- >>> >>Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. >>> >>Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 >>> >>International: +44(0)1438 742286, >>> >>Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 >>> >>mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, >>> >>Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: >>> >>http://www.comproom.co.uk >>> >> >>> >>-----Original Message----- >>> >>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>> On >>Behalf >>> >>Of >>> >>Ted Martin >>> >>Sent: 17 May 2006 20:57 >>> >>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>Subject: [access-uk] Re: System Access >>> >> >>> >>Frank, in Freedom Box go to preferences with alt P. There you >>> can >>choose >>> >>when you want System Access to start. >>> >>Ted >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>At 19:58 17/05/06, you wrote: >>> >> >Hi, Listers! >>> >> > >>> >> >Anybody know how to get System Access by Freedombox to start >>> >> >automatically as Windows starts, please? >>> >> > >>> >> >The excellent review on the latest Infotec doesn't appear to >>> >> >have covered this as System Access was already running. >>> >> > >>> >> >Thanks for your help. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >-- >>> >> >Frank - blind as a bat and proud of it too. >>> >> >frank.haslam1@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq