[access-uk] Re: System Access as Standalone Screenreader - WAWAS:Re: Re: System Access
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:32:37 +0100
Well now Adrian and Steve, this is, of course a technology access list.
Still, and at the risk of starting a political discussion , I'd say you
might get what someone else is prepared to pay for, rather than getting
'what you pay for'.
Clearly, someone is footing the cost, or else giving their labour free and
gratis. It just maybe that some very talented people have decided their
paid employment is remunerative enough for them to want to do 'free'
development, or even open source development.
I'm not exactly an ignoramus when it comes to economics and the realities of
running a business, but sometimes, just some times, people do want to
develop software for the fun of it and because its a rewarding challenge.
While I wouldn't hold my breath as to a real competitor to the expensive big
three or four screen readers, I wouldn't abandon all hope of such a thing
appearing.
The abstract at the RNIB URL I gave earlier does point out though the high
cost of supporting VI users, and where Choice Technology fits into this -
not to mention the big players in the voluntary sector I don't know. to my
knowledge the vol sector hasn't exactly covered itself in glory in this
arena.
From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Adrian Higginbotham
Cheers Ray will look at those - as Steve says you often do get what you
pay for but any improvement on narrator is welcomed.
Adrian Higginbotham
Accessibility and inclusion adviser
British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA
Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Internal extension #2287
Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/
BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ray's Home
Sent: 22 May 2006 10:38
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: System Access as Standalone Screenreader -
WAWAS:Re: Re: System Access
Hi Adrian, and interesting you mention the free screen reader. Its most
likely the developments being promoted by Roger Wilson-Hines of Choice
technology at:
http://www.screenreader.co.uk/
Interestingly, a presentation by Roger Wilson Hines and Paul Blenkhorn,
(ex-Dolphin software developer)was given at Vision 2005 and some of the
thinking of Roger - and the powers that be - is summarised at:
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/PublicWebsite/publ
ic_v
2005abstractsmonday.hcsp
Sorry for the long, wrapping URL but it should work alright.
From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Adrian Higginbotham
Doris - might be worth holding out for a little bit longer as a UK
based low-cost access solution company are launching a free
screenreader in July. Afraid I don't at this point in time know any
more that that.
Adrian Higginbotham
Accessibility and inclusion adviser
Oh, I'm not talking about the demo version. I have played around with
the trial version here for a bit without ever activating a freedom box
trial account and system access ran in 20-minute demo mode.
I was asking about the full version of access like the version that
comes on a usb stick. i have no intention or interst to suscribe to the
freedombox network but am looking for a screen access solution that is
portable and easy to use and works on all version of widnows.
system access promises to do just that and I was wondering if one spent
the US$395 or US$595 for the passkey or usb drive version, if system
access would continue to work as a standlone screenreader and not just
in demo mode. I don't care about upgrades at tthis point and of course
if upgrades are not paid for, I wouldn't expect to get them just as I
don't expect FS to pass out free full upgrades to their product. <g>
It's just cool that System Access works without need for a wideo hook.
If Microslop had done a decent job on Narrator, Narrator could be doing
the same thing.
Thanks much.
Doris
At 07:00 PM 5/19/2006 +0100, you wrote:
>My trial is about to run out, so might be able to let you know in a
>couple of days.
>
>Vince.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chipmunks" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:01 AM
>Subject: [access-uk] Re: System Access > > >>I am a little late
getting in on this thread.
>>
>>I would like to know if System Access can be used as a screenreader
>>independent of a current account with the Freedom Box network, i.e.
>>will system access continue to function as a screenereader once the
>>subscription to Freedom Box has expired?
>>
>>Thanks much.
>>
>>Doris
>>At 11:06 PM 5/18/2006 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Vince,
>>>
>>>I have more crashes with JAWS when I use it, than System Access.
>>>
>>>All the best
>>>--
>>>Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users.
>>>Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277
>>>International: +44(0)1438 742286,
>>>Fax: +44(0)1438 759589
>>>mobile: +44(0)7956 334938,
>>>Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk >>> >>>-----Original
Message-----
>>>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>Behalf Of Vince Thacker
>>>Sent: 18 May 2006 18:58
>>>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: System Access >>> >>>Yes, Ted, and it's
one of the reasons I'm probably not going to buy >>>into the Freedom
Box thing, nice as it is in many ways.
>>>
>>>It seems to happen when I'm trying to do several things at a time
and
>>>memory is a bit short. But I've had freeze-ups with System Access
>>>that are more serious, and that's a real put-=off, or even off-put.
>>>
>>>Vince
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Ted Martin" <tedmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:48 PM
>>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: System Access >>> >>> >>> > That's right
Steve, but Frank was asking how to launch system >>> access > when >>>
> starting windows.
>>> >
>>> > The only trouble I have with S-A is when using it without Freedom
>>> > Box, which is most of the time, it sometimes stops talking for no
>>> > apparent reason. Do you ever get that?
>>> >
>>> > Ted
>>> >
>>> > At 21:35 17/05/06, you wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>And if you already have System Access running, you can get to
>>> the >>System >>> >>Access properties, by pressing Caps Lock and F,
or any of the >>> >>System Access modifier keys with F. That bit was
covered in the >>> >>review.
>>> >>
>>> >>All the best
>>> >>--
>>> >>Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users.
>>> >>Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 >>> >>International:
+44(0)1438 742286, >>> >>Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 >>> >>mobile:
+44(0)7956 334938, >>> >>Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site:
>>> >>http://www.comproom.co.uk
>>> >>
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On >>Behalf >>> >>Of >>> >>Ted Martin >>> >>Sent: 17 May 2006
20:57 >>> >>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>Subject: [access-uk] Re:
System Access >>> >> >>> >>Frank, in Freedom Box go to preferences
with alt P. There you >>> can >>choose >>> >>when you want System
Access to start.
>>> >>Ted
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>At 19:58 17/05/06, you wrote:
>>> >> >Hi, Listers!
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Anybody know how to get System Access by Freedombox to start
>>> >> >automatically as Windows starts, please?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >The excellent review on the latest Infotec doesn't appear to
>>> >> >have covered this as System Access was already running.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Thanks for your help.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >--
>>> >> >Frank - blind as a bat and proud of it too.
>>> >> >frank.haslam1@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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