[access-uk] Re: RNIB
- From: "David Russell" <david.russell8@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:13:46 -0000
Sight and Sound may not stipulate a price, but Freedom Scientific may well
do. Either way, RNIB are no cheaper nor more expensive than anywhere else.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of john coley
Sent: 21 November 2009 13:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Hi Ibrahim, are Sight And Sound forcing them to sell at full retail? The
RNIB buy it at trade price, not full retail.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
> Hi Jon.
>
> The reason the RNIB charge the same price on JFW as do all other suppliers
> is because of the simple fact that they have to buy it in from Sight And
> Sound, the main UK distributor ffor Freedom Scientific products.
>
> All the best, Ibrahim.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:05 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>
>
>> Steve, I'm referring to products available from other suppliers, not
>> braille books. Check, for instance, the RNIB price on JFW.
>> John.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:44 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Depends how you define profit.
>>>
>>> In the example that Iain gave, if a book costs more to produce than a
>>> print
>>> book, how are they making profit, by selling stuff at the same price? If
>>> anything, they are making a loss. Do the math. Just because it costs
>>> the
>>> same, doesn't mean a company or charity is making profit.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> john coley
>>> Sent: Friday 20 November 2009 19:22
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>
>>> They shouldn't in that case claim to be a non profit organisation. The
>>> fact
>>> that you agree with it is immaterial. It is dishonest.
>>> John.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:46 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>
>>>
>>>> No, I am not shocked and I think it only right that RNIB should sell
>>>> goods
>>>
>>>> at the same price as other suppliers. We should remember that Selling
>>>> is
>>>> only part of the work which RNIB does and even here there are many
>>>> areas
>>>> of subsidy. If we take books for example, a book is genrally sold by
>>>> RNIB
>>>> at the same price as the print version. However, the cost of producing
>>>> that book is much greater than the print. If we were to be charged the
>>>> same price for audio books as the general market price, I don't think
>>>> many
>>>
>>>> of us would be buying too many of them. Personally, I think there is
>>>> too
>>>> much of the expecting to get things cheaper within the blind community.
>>>>
>>>> Iain
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:03 PM
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] RNIB
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everybody, I learnt something the other day that shocked me. It's
>>>>> something that affects many of us. The RNIB as a charity is supposed
>>>>> to
>>>>> be a non profit organisation.
>>>>> When I was researching prices of a product recently I found it
>>>>> strange
>>>>> that the RNIB charged the same as other suppliers. I took it up with a
>>>>> friend at the RNIB, who confirmed to me that yes, they do make the
>>>>> same
>>>>> profit as other suppliers, but given their status as a non profit
>>>>> organisation they're not allowed to call it profit, so call it
>>>>> contribution.
>>>>> Given that any financial gain made on sale of something is profit
>>>>> whatever they choose to call it it comes down to the same thing.
>>>>> It would be interesting to know how officially they reconcile being a
>>>>> non profit organisation with their operating as a profit making one,
>>>>> that
>>>
>>>>> profit being made from those people they profess to be helping.
>>>>> John.
>>>>>
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