[access-uk] Re: RNIB
- From: Gordon Keen <gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:50:32 +0000
This argument is becoming rather circular, you and others are entitled to one
opinion others to their own and if reasoned debate is not going to make any
difference I suggest those who feel strongly about the way RNIB redistribute
their funds that they complain to the Charity Commission.
I do not intend to go further with this topic and will delete any further posts
on the subject, life is too short.
Regards
G
From glorious Devon, England.
On 21 Nov 2009, at 10:39, john coley wrote:
> They are a non profit organisation. They are not allowed to sell for profit.
> That's it and all about it. It doesn't matter a damn if you think they should
> be able to. Yes, they can make money from other sources, but not by selling
> products for profit. Or do you think it's fine for them to do whatever they
> want to get money?
> John.
>
> John.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Keen" <gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:18 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>
>
> I am in no way a RNIB fan boy but where do you think they get the moneys
> required to run their educational establishments and other services?
> Some funds undoubtedly come from the state by way of grants but not all and
> they have to raise the shortfall from other sources.
>
> I can not say that I always agree with the way they spend the money they
> raise, a lot of the tech projects are just a waste of time - who can forget
> the ill fated electronic newspaper debacle, and I believe that they are too
> top heavy in their management structure but that is another argument.
>
> Regards
>
> G
>
> From glorious Devon, England
> On 20 Nov 2009, at 19:52, john coley wrote:
>
>> That's the point. They make a profit. As a non profit organisation they are
>> not allowed to. You have just said so much yourself.
>> John.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Lackie"
>> <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:33 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>
>>
>>> They are a nonn-profit organisation in that they do not exist to make a
>>> profit.
>>>
>>> Iain
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:21 PM
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>
>>>>
>>>> They shouldn't in that case claim to be a non profit organisation. The
>>>> fact that you agree with it is immaterial. It is dishonest.
>>>> John.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Lackie"
>>>> <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:46 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No, I am not shocked and I think it only right that RNIB should sell
>>>>> goods at the same price as other suppliers. We should remember that
>>>>> Selling is only part of the work which RNIB does and even here there are
>>>>> many areas of subsidy. If we take books for example, a book is genrally
>>>>> sold by RNIB at the same price as the print version. However, the cost of
>>>>> producing that book is much greater than the print. If we were to be
>>>>> charged the same price for audio books as the general market price, I
>>>>> don't think many of us would be buying too many of them. Personally, I
>>>>> think there is too much of the expecting to get things cheaper within the
>>>>> blind community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Iain
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:03 PM
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] RNIB
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everybody, I learnt something the other day that shocked me. It's
>>>>>> something that affects many of us. The RNIB as a charity is supposed to
>>>>>> be a non profit organisation.
>>>>>> When I was researching prices of a product recently I found it strange
>>>>>> that the RNIB charged the same as other suppliers. I took it up with a
>>>>>> friend at the RNIB, who confirmed to me that yes, they do make the same
>>>>>> profit as other suppliers, but given their status as a non profit
>>>>>> organisation they're not allowed to call it profit, so call it
>>>>>> contribution.
>>>>>> Given that any financial gain made on sale of something is profit
>>>>>> whatever they choose to call it it comes down to the same thing.
>>>>>> It would be interesting to know how officially they reconcile being a
>>>>>> non profit organisation with their operating as a profit making one,
>>>>>> that profit being made from those people they profess to be helping.
>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>
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