[access-uk] Re: RNIB

I think if this discussion is going to continue (and I won't be surprised if the moderator doesn't step in soon), it is only right that the facts should be correct. RNIB does not charge for New Product Guide and it is available to anyone who wants it in any of the accessible formats. You also have free access to the New Books magazine at least from the web. Compare the price of Daisy books from RNIB with offerings available to the general public and you will see that RNIB prices are considerably lower. I have issues with RNIB but to say that it is ruled by a "grab" mentality is both untrue and unfair.


Iain

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From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:45 AM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB


Hi Eleanor, for them to charge for what ostensively is product news is attrocious. They really don't know when to stop. It just seems to be grab grab grab. They've totally lost sight of what they're there for.
                   John.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:05 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB


I agree with all you say John. Of course RNiB should proof read just as any publishing company should proof read. Indeed many blind people lost jobs as proof readers in the RNIB sadly.

One thing I do resent greatly from the RNIB is this membership and how one has to pay an annual subscription to be a member and then one gets a CD or whatever, it was even a cassette at one point, of the RNIB news. Now I think that is dreadful and shuld be free to all!!!!

Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:56 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB


Hi Eleanor, no charity should make money from those it exists to help. I don't know about you, but I've never had anything from the RNIB I haven't paid for, and yet they'd have the public believe the millions of pounds they contribute is used to help us. I don't know if you remember, but around the time the penfriend was released someone posted about mistakes in the braille instructions, and the RNIB rep on the list said that they couldn't be expected to proof read every document they issued. Of course they should. That is one of the things the money they take in should pay for. As for educational bodies claiming charitable status, although when originally founded they may have qualified I'm sure that many of them shouldn't have it now. I think that with a lot of the organisations that have had it for years and years it's taken for granted and the charity commission don't keep as close an eye on them as they perhaps should.
                   John.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:29 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB


Indeed not but when I consider the RNIB and it does do work for blind people, then I can understand charity status but when I see educational establishments claiming charity status, even universities, then that worries me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:21 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB


Hi Eleanor, maybe then the charity comission should check them out. If they're doing nothing wrong they'd have nothing to worry about.
                   John.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB


Well John look at all that have Charity status and I wonder at that.
----- Original Message ----- From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB


So you're saying that as long as they're not a public company with shareholders they can turn a profit, despite non profit status? That seems rather a contradiction in terms. That would be no different then than any non quoted company. They all plough their profits back into the business.
                       John.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:45 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB


Making money in one area of their business doesn't mean that they are breaking any rules. It is their full financial position which gets them a not for profit status; in other words they have to plough the money back
into the business, not give it out as profits for shareholders.

If you have a problem with the RNIB for doing this you are going to have the
same problem with all the rest of the non- profit sector.

Cheers
Karl


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