[access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty
- From: <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:09:49 +0100
Hello Amanda,
by telling the people sending out the information:
1. That a PDF document produced by a text file printed out and scanned
back in to be stored as a graphical image ain't going to work, so please
get a text version done.
2. If they want to know what a blind person will get out of their
document, that is, how accessible (or not) it will be to us, get them to
try saving a text copy. If they get unsatisfactory results, so will we
but we won't have the alternative.
3. Because there is probably a handful of right ways and a boatload of
wrong ways to produce readable Pdf, it is important to stress the need
for alternative versions of documents to be provided along with PDF on
website.
In short, it's all about raising the provider's awareness of the
customer's needs.
Best,
Clive
Clive Lever
Diversity Advisor
01622 221163 (extension 7000 1163) Room 1.15, Sessions House, County
Hall, Maidstone, ME14 1XQ.
Diversity is a strength and we will value and harness difference for the
benefit of all service users, the individual and KCC.
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Amanda Burt
Sent: 27 April 2011 16:59
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty
Ah, that's very interesting. I wondered why some PDF documents I can
read and others, it says empty document. How do we get round this
problem?
Thanks Amanda
From: Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 4:44 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty
Hi Valerie,
now that one does sound as if Adobe Acrobat reader has worked on a file
comprising a scanned-in graphic instead of the original text. It would
strip out all the graphics, then format the rest for JAWS to read to
you. However, in the case of a document that is scanned in pictures of
pages of text, there'll be nothing left. The sighted person would see
the picture of the page, and read the words on it. The Blind reader
would be told the document is empty - because 100% of the content will
have been filtered out.
Best,
Clive
Clive Lever
Diversity Advisor
01622 221163 (extension 7000 1163) Room 1.15, Sessions House, County
Hall, Maidstone, ME14 1XQ.
Diversity is a strength and we will value and harness difference for the
benefit of all service users, the individual and KCC.
________________________________
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of valerie
Sent: 27 April 2011 16:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty
Hi Andy.
I'm having a similar problem, but in my case it's happening with email
attachments. I've received two emails recently with PDF documents
attached, but when I open them up JAWS tells me the document is being
processed but then says "alert empty document". I don't know whether
it's visible on screen but JAWS obviously isn't seeing anything. Are
there any settings in WLM I need to change?
Valerie Pickles.
From: ANDY COLLINS <mailto:Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:39 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] PDF difficulty
Hi all -
Sometimes when I click on a PDF doc, the processing starts, but JAWS [9]
can't see anything. Using the JAWS cursor, I can read a line that says
"1/2 29.4 percent find"
I understand that this means 29.4 percent of page 1, and there are 2
pages to process, and that the "find" is to search the document, but
can't figure out how to make the document visible to JAWS. Sighted help
tells me the document is visible on screen, but trying to use the "find
facility to search for a word that is visible to the eye, reports no
results. I also notice that hitting the ALT key doesn't bring up the
menu bar.
Any help please? -
Andy
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