[access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty

Hi Kevin - just to add, I don't get the opportunity to change the reading order 
or anything, and can't access the menu to save as txt -

Andy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kevin Lloyd 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 4:33 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty


  Hi Andy.

  Have you tried changing the reading order when you open the PDF document?  Is 
it asking you if you want to read it as recommended, left to right or raw 
stream?  Sometimes changing these settings will give a better result and I've 
found a number of documents that read better with the raw stream setting.

  You could also save as text and read the text document instead of the PDF if 
that's easier.

  Happy to have a look at it if you want to send it to my e-mail address below 
though I'm using JAWS 11 rather than 9.

  Regards.

  Kevin Lloyd
  E-mail: kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxx
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: ANDY COLLINS 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 4:22 PM
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty


    Hi clive -

    Just an update--I have had a reply to my email sent to the producer of that 
PDF file. He tells me that it isn't a scanned document, but a text doc saved as 
a PDF.

    Wonder why JFW is having problems with it then -

    Andy
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx 
      To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:50 PM
      Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty



      Hi Andy,

      do you know whether the content is actually text, or if it is really the 
scanned image of a printout of what started its life as text? This would 
certainly give a result visible to the sighted reader and inaudible to a JAWS 
(or other speech output) user. 
      Please excuse me if this is a read herring. I've seen that particular 
trick turned before. It's not good practice, but sadly it happens more often 
than it should.

      Best,
      Clive


      Best,
      Clive



                
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      From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of ANDY COLLINS
      Sent: 27 April 2011 14:40
      To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [access-uk] PDF difficulty


      Hi all -

      Sometimes when I click on a PDF doc, the processing starts, but JAWS [9] 
can't see anything. Using the JAWS cursor, I can read a line that says "1/2 
29.4 percent find"

      I understand that this means 29.4 percent of page 1, and there are 2 
pages to process, and that the "find" is to search the document, but can't 
figure out how to make the document visible to JAWS. Sighted help tells me the 
document is visible on screen, but trying to use the "find facility to search 
for a word that is visible to the eye, reports no results. I also notice that 
hitting the ALT key doesn't bring up the menu bar.

      Any help please? -

      Andy

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