[access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?

Yes, I think I have got it sussed now.

I don't know how to edit at all either.

Thanks Andy.

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Carol P
---- Original Message ----
From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?

Hi Carol - Regarding deleteing letters from the edit
field, I find double patting the delete button removes
the last character, VO just says what the letter is, it
doesn't say "deleted."
What I've not yet figured out, is how to back space
through a word without deleting, so as to change a missed
placed character -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:15 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?


Hi Jackie,

Yes, it's much better to keep your finger on the screen
till you find the icon you want, if you think you're
anywhere near it anyway.
I am beginning to get to grips with writing on the
onboard keyboard, but it's still rather tedious.  I
haven't really mastered how to tell for definite what
I've just deleted, if I get incorrect letters or just
want to delete an extra space after a word, for example.
I've also read about deleting multiple mail messages at
once but haven't managed to really understand/find out
how to do this in practice.
Anyway, like you I'm getting there, even if I do tend to
have to use keyboard and ipod, not to mention BN, to get
the best working arrangement at times.

Think I'll wait till the next generation of phones comes
out, unless I get an offer like yours of course! <Smiles>
Anyway, bashing on and enjoying.  At least I'm beginning
to be able to find and play individual songs with
inputting on the screen now.
--
Carol P


---- Original Message ----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 9:18 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?

Hi Carol

Just things like keeping my finger on the screen and
sliding it across so that the icons are read out as I
go, rather than  me lifting my finger and dabbing at
them, which is what I had a tendency to do.  And he
showed me how to get rid of unwanted messages which I
do in some way or other.  He also took a picture of
Martin and I together and placed this on both my iPod
Touch and iPhone so you can see it when you unlock the
screen.  It's just a personal touch that I wanted to
have on my devices.
I'm now beginning to get used to texting.  It's a long
way round for a shortcut if you ask me, but I'm
determined, so that helps! (smiles).

Ian has also been playing with the Mac while here, and
likes it better than Windows in some respects.  He
prefers the graphics, and loves the keyboard, not to
mention its size.  He also thought VoiceOver was a vast
improvement to Eloquence for listening to which I found
rather interesting.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol
Pearson
Sent: 06 March 2011 18:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?

Jackie, so what did your son show you?  Do pass on in
case I should need/want to know, and anyone else for
that matter.

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Carol P
---- Original Message ----
From: "Jackie Cairns"
<jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:
<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 1:06 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?

Hi Carol

My son being here this weekend has helped a bit too. He has worked out what VoiceOver does, and shown me a
couple of things that have been helpful. Still not a
convert to the actual phone, but getting there and as
determined as ever.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol
Pearson
Sent: 04 March 2011 17:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?

Yes, I'm determined now to master it, having got going
with the Ipod.

I agree, you don't want to rely solely on the keyboard.

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Carol P
---- Original Message ----
From: "Jackie Cairns"
<jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:
<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:16 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?

Hi Barry

Yes, I'm trying hard to use the screen with my fingers
as it's more realistic than having to get the keyboard
out every time.  It's a life-saver for certain things,
but I'm determined to master it, and would encourage
anyone else to do likewise.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry
Toner
Sent: 04 March 2011 09:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?

Hi Jackie,

I'd say it took at least 2 weeks of using the
on-screen keyboard before I started to feel reasonably
comfortable.
Allot of frustration!  I've now got the Wireless
keyboard and of course it's wonderful.  I'm very glad
though that I spent several months with the on-screen
keyboard and controls though first!

Barry.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
Cairns
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:30 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions,
please?
Hi Ed

Getting there, painfully slowly.  I dread the phone
ringing or a text coming in, but I'm beginning to get
round it without the keyboard and using my fingers. I guess everyone has gone through this to get to
where they are in using an iPhone competently.  I've
got my son coming over tonight for a long weekend,
and I'm going to get him to turn VoiceOver on on his
iPhone, then we can have a proper dual!! (smile).


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edward
Green
Sent: 04 March 2011 00:11
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions,
please?
Hi Jackie,

Sticking 2 fingers up will continuously read a book
to you in iBooks. Actually it won't, but flicking
upwards with 2 fingers will and I couldn't resist
the joke.
Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
Cairns
Sent: 03 March 2011 10:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions,
please?
Thanks Ed, very helpful and stuff worth saving for
future reference. I'm kind of getting there, but it's
rather a case of sticking two fingers up at the
moment than gesturing with the phone itself.  I've
been practising the gestures within VoiceOver, and
they seem to work, but what a faff to answer a call
or delete something.  And as for forwarding a joke,
well let's just say my friends will have to wait a
bit longer for them!! (smile).


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edward
Green
Sent: 03 March 2011 06:32
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions,
please?
Hi Jackie,

Apologies if someone has answered your questions
already, but I haven't seen a reply.

To delete a contact, open it, and double tap on edit.
Then flick with three
fingers to the right.  Your iPhone should say
something like "rows 3 to 8 of 8".  The delete
contact option should have appeared after "add
field". If for some reason flicking with three
fingers to the right doesn't work initially, flick
with one finger until you're a little further down
the list of fields already visible.

You'll see that you already have some options to
delete different numbers without doing the 3-fingered
flick, but this will leave you with a blank contact
unless you use the delete contact option.

There are a couple of ways to answer calls.  You can
either do a 2- fingered double tap which is the
quickest if you are comfortable with the gesture.
If not though, then you can use the standard flick
right or left with one finger gestures to navigate
the screen.  You will see a "slide to answer"
option.  Double tapping on this (with one finger)
will also answer the call.
This sounds longer but, as I say, you may find you're
able to accomplish it quickly enough if the
2-fingered double tap is giving you problems.

I'm afraid I don't know how to turn the voicemail off
on o2.  Could it be somewhere in the message settings
when you ring the 901 number? Alternatively, are you
able to change either there or on the phone itself
how long it takes for the voicemail to kick in? You
could always lengthen this interval if so.

Hope this helps.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie
Cairns
Sent: 02 March 2011 14:20
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] New iPhone questions, please?

Well, all the contacts are in now, but I have a few
questions please?

1.  How do I remove an unwanted contact?

2.  What does one do to delete read or unwanted
messages to be discarded?

3.  I'm still having finger gesture problems, so
don't always manage to answer the phone until
Voicemail kicks in.  As I'm on O2, what is the
number to turn Voicemail off.  I know it is 901 to
dial it.
Getting there, but finding it a bit frustrating at
times.  For example, I don't like the way a text
message alert will sound when you are talking to
someone on the phone, and VoiceOver reads out the
text message you have just received.  Is there a way
of stopping it?

Thanks for your help as ever.

Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk

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