Hi Jackie,Yes, it's much better to keep your finger on the screen till you find the icon you want, if you think you're anywhere near it anyway.
I am beginning to get to grips with writing on the onboard keyboard, but it's still rather tedious. I haven't really mastered how to tell for definite what I've just deleted, if I get incorrect letters or just want to delete an extra space after a word, for example. I've also read about deleting multiple mail messages at once but haven't managed to really understand/find out how to do this in practice.
Anyway, like you I'm getting there, even if I do tend to have to use keyboard and ipod, not to mention BN, to get the best working arrangement at times.
Think I'll wait till the next generation of phones comes out, unless I get an offer like yours of course! <Smiles>
Anyway, bashing on and enjoying. At least I'm beginning to be able to find and play individual songs with inputting on the screen now.
-- Carol P ---- Original Message ---- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 9:18 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?
Hi Carol Just things like keeping my finger on the screen and sliding it across so that the icons are read out as I go, rather than me lifting my finger and dabbing at them, which is what I had a tendency to do. And he showed me how to get rid of unwanted messages which I do in some way or other. He also took a picture of Martin and I together and placed this on both my iPod Touch and iPhone so you can see it when you unlock the screen. It's just a personal touch that I wanted to have on my devices. I'm now beginning to get used to texting. It's a long way round for a shortcut if you ask me, but I'm determined, so that helps! (smiles). Ian has also been playing with the Mac while here, and likes it better than Windows in some respects. He prefers the graphics, and loves the keyboard, not to mention its size. He also thought VoiceOver was a vast improvement to Eloquence for listening to which I found rather interesting. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: 06 March 2011 18:23 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please? Jackie, so what did your son show you? Do pass on in case I should need/want to know, and anyone else for that matter. -- Carol P ---- Original Message ---- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 1:06 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?Hi Carol My son being here this weekend has helped a bit too. He has worked out what VoiceOver does, and shown me a couple of things that have been helpful. Still not a convert to the actual phone, but getting there and as determined as ever. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: 04 March 2011 17:28 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please? Yes, I'm determined now to master it, having got going with the Ipod. I agree, you don't want to rely solely on the keyboard. -- Carol P ---- Original Message ---- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:16 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please?Hi Barry Yes, I'm trying hard to use the screen with my fingers as it's more realistic than having to get the keyboard out every time. It's a life-saver for certain things, but I'm determined to master it, and would encourage anyone else to do likewise. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry Toner Sent: 04 March 2011 09:58 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please? Hi Jackie, I'd say it took at least 2 weeks of using the on-screen keyboard before I started to feel reasonably comfortable. Allot of frustration! I've now got the Wireless keyboard and of course it's wonderful. I'm very glad though that I spent several months with the on-screen keyboard and controls though first! Barry.-----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:30 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please? Hi Ed Getting there, painfully slowly. I dread the phone ringing or a text coming in, but I'm beginning to get round it without the keyboard and using my fingers. I guess everyone has gone through this to get to where they are in using an iPhone competently. I've got my son coming over tonight for a long weekend, and I'm going to get him to turn VoiceOver on on his iPhone, then we can have a proper dual!! (smile). Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edward Green Sent: 04 March 2011 00:11 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please? Hi Jackie, Sticking 2 fingers up will continuously read a book to you in iBooks. Actually it won't, but flicking upwards with 2 fingers will and I couldn't resist the joke. Ed -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 03 March 2011 10:58 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please? Thanks Ed, very helpful and stuff worth saving for future reference. I'm kind of getting there, but it's rather a case of sticking two fingers up at the moment than gesturing with the phone itself. I've been practising the gestures within VoiceOver, and they seem to work, but what a faff to answer a call or delete something. And as for forwarding a joke, well let's just say my friends will have to wait a bit longer for them!! (smile). Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edward Green Sent: 03 March 2011 06:32 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: New iPhone questions, please? Hi Jackie, Apologies if someone has answered your questions already, but I haven't seen a reply. To delete a contact, open it, and double tap on edit. Then flick with three fingers to the right. Your iPhone should say something like "rows 3 to 8 of 8". The delete contact option should have appeared after "add field". If for some reason flicking with three fingers to the right doesn't work initially, flick with one finger until you're a little further down the list of fields already visible. You'll see that you already have some options to delete different numbers without doing the 3-fingered flick, but this will leave you with a blank contact unless you use the delete contact option. There are a couple of ways to answer calls. You can either do a 2- fingered double tap which is the quickest if you are comfortable with the gesture. If not though, then you can use the standard flick right or left with one finger gestures to navigate the screen. You will see a "slide to answer" option. Double tapping on this (with one finger) will also answer the call. This sounds longer but, as I say, you may find you're able to accomplish it quickly enough if the 2-fingered double tap is giving you problems. I'm afraid I don't know how to turn the voicemail off on o2. Could it be somewhere in the message settings when you ring the 901 number? Alternatively, are you able to change either there or on the phone itself how long it takes for the voicemail to kick in? You could always lengthen this interval if so. Hope this helps. Ed -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 02 March 2011 14:20 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] New iPhone questions, please? Well, all the contacts are in now, but I have a few questions please? 1. How do I remove an unwanted contact? 2. What does one do to delete read or unwanted messages to be discarded? 3. I'm still having finger gesture problems, so don't always manage to answer the phone until Voicemail kicks in. As I'm on O2, what is the number to turn Voicemail off. I know it is 901 to dial it. Getting there, but finding it a bit frustrating at times. For example, I don't like the way a text message alert will sound when you are talking to someone on the phone, and VoiceOver reads out the text message you have just received. Is there a way of stopping it? Thanks for your help as ever. 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