hi, not sure where you got the idea audiobooks on tape are all abridged! i'm sure: http://www.isis-publishing.co.uk and http://www.audiobookcollection.comm might disagree! smile kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list contact me on kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin R" <mypc128@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:45 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC NEWS | Technology | Not long left for cassette tapes (I feel no pain) > I quite agree actually. I find the Victor reader, as an example, not at all > portable and thus, can't take it on holiday with me. That's the to say, I'm > not really interested in audio books on cassettes, they are all abridged, > aren't they? I'd rather have the book in it's entirety. Plus, Cassettes > can be fiddly. Lets not forget, when one side finishes, you've got a long > gap inbetween so, you have to forward the tape to the end to change sides. > I think, in this day and age, the cassette is over really. Now that we have > DAISY format CD's. I'd like to see this format used for audio books across > the board. > > Justin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Cussick" <mm0tmg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:12 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC NEWS | Technology | Not long left for cassette > tapes (I feel no pain) > > > > Yes, > > > > It's the old problem when a bit of kit gets designed for blind users I > > think the folks that design it seem to think we have Cole bags as > > pockets and also I think a bit of kit should look good as well just > > because I am blind I don't want a bit of kit that looks crap I have > > bought a bit of kit which looks really crap but it works well just my > > thoughts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf > > Of kevin and emma > > Sent: 19 June 2005 14:09 > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC NEWS | Technology | Not long left for > > cassette tapes (I feel no pain) > > > > > > maybe the acceptance or lack of it, has been to do with size and > > portability? when the RNIB's talking book service went digital and > > sent out > > the victor reader player, it didn't exactly fit in your pocket! > > mainstream > > discmans did and still do. you can cram such equipment full of all > > sorts of > > useful features like the markers etc, but size and portability for > > some is > > far more important. personally, the markers save so much time and > > messing > > about, i wouldn't be without such a feature! > > kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list > > contact me on kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:54 AM > > Subject: [access-uk] BBC NEWS | Technology | Not long left for > > cassette > > tapes (I feel no pain) > > > > > > Interesting post Colin, not least the reflections on the by-gone days > > of > > real time copying and the record industry's anxst over life copying in > > the > > slow lane, so to speak. Sure they'd have those days back again if > > only they > > could! > > > > What perplexes me at times is how slow many of the VI community are in > > accepting the benefits of digital media, and particularly DAISY and > > DAISY > > players, especially as you can get these for free on loan. One bloke I > > know > > moaned about the fact that his JAWS manuals didn't come on cassette, > > but on > > CD. He went out and bought a bog standard walkman-type CD player to > > play > > them on, in spite of the fact I'd told him about the DAISY players' > > availability through the Talking Book arrangements with Local > > Authorities. > > The DAISY format addresses all the criticisms of the lack of ease > > about > > picking up where you left off, and you can mark areas of disks you are > > interested in, and just as easily remove the marks afterwards. > > > > Then there are still those who tell me how good it is that cassettes > > for > > magazines etc can be recycled and therefore how cost effective they > > still > > are. Really? How many of you have gone through the process of bulk > > erasing > > cassettes, and the time that adds to recycling hundreds of the damn > > things? > > Not to mention they sometimes, not very often though, snarl up. You > > can buy > > blank CDs in bulk for 10-15p each and it matters not that they aren't > > re-usable. Add to that the possibility of distributing in MP3 or > > other > > format, and the time savings in duplication are obvious. Eventually > > all > > this duplication should become a thing of the past when we get an > > easy to > > use internet player, rather like a radio -cassette player to use. Oh > > yes, I > > knew the cassette would have to appear again somehow. Thank goodness > > it is > > only in the form of a metaphor for the interface to operate the > > superior new > > digital players. > > > > For those who have missed the original Colin posted, go to: > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4099904.stm > > > > Ray > > > > Personal emails: Email me at > > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/6/05 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/6/05 > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq