Oh alright then Steve, have it you're way <smile>. No seriously, I didn't
realise Daisy wasn't good enough quality for music. Now, I'd never wanna
see a new technology incorporated into music where the quality was degraded
in anyway. It's hard to tell the quality of daisy overall sometimes. Well,
with my experience of RNIB talking books, I'm listening mostly to old
recordings from the old tapes so.... not really easy for me to judge.
Especially when the talking book players comes with one speaker only.
Makes met think though, whether in the future we could see a Daisy+ format
that would address the quality issue? A case of watch this space, like with
all technology.
Justin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 6:54 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC NEWS | Technology | Not long left for cassette
tapes (I feel no pain)
Hi Justin,
I don't feel that Daisy would lend itself very well to music. While speech
is good enough when Daisified, is that a word? It would severely reduce the
quality, as well as the amount of CDs of such musical box sets. I disagree
with anyone that says Daisy is good quality. Yes, it is good enough for
speech, but I have tried various music recordings on the PTR1 as Daisy, with
different compression levels, and I have to say it is still severely
noticable that it doesn't come close to audio CD. So I say keep the box
sets as they are, thank you <Smile>.
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Justin R
Sent: 13 July 2005 11:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC NEWS | Technology | Not long left for cassette
tapes (I feel no pain)
I have to say, I'd like to see all that done with CD myself. I don't know.
There's nothing cleaner than information on CD. i think the daisy formats
are so great. They are brilliant for audio books. Given the audio capacity
that they can hold and navigation. Music CD's may well benefit from this.
I'm thinking of greatest hits and box sets CD's that could well benefit
fromk Daisy formating. It may cut out the four CD box sets and reduce them
to the double or even single CD. That would make it cheaper to produce such
box sets in the future, only needing one to two CD's instead of four. For
music DJ fans, they could navigate to a section of the track, word sung even
especially for mixing perposes. The possibilities are endless. I love to
see technology progress and.... I feel Daisy formating is one way to go.
Justin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:27 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC NEWS | Technology | Not long left for cassette
tapes (I feel no pain)
never so.Never mind cassettes and vinyl being past their sell-by date; I thought this thread was?
If we are talking High Fidelity here, well, there will always be purists who will have nothing said against vinyl and who seem to regard it almost with a mystical reverence. All very good if you've the best of turntables/cartridges/preamps etc. Also, fine if you can keep a well pressed LP in its pristine state. For 99% of us, that wastoo.
AS for DJ's prefering it, that's as much to do with 'scratching' - in the club scene sense - as anything else, and there are now CD units that seemingly can make a good job of that.
Again, cassettes could be good on the legendary Nakamichi and Revox decks, but, again, how many of us went to those lengths or could affordfor progress!
For all practical purposes digital, in the form of CD or now HD or
memory cards, is the practical and very adwquate way audio
reproduction is handled. This thread really started around the issue
of cassettes as a carrier of not just high quality audio but anything
to do with information, inlcuding spoken word. The only challenge
left, as far as I am concerned, is to retain an intuitive cassette
like interface while adding sophisticated search and indexing
features. The machines we use now can take up where you left off in a
cassette like fashion, and you can easily bookmark without audible
tones or the old, fascical, growling sowed-down indexing speech we
used to get on the now defunct old RNIB student cassettes. Thank goodnessRay
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jillian Grant" <jillian.grant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
As a music listener, I personally find the sound of cassettes, if kept well sound better than vinyl. mind you, much prefer cd to tape any day. don't have many music tapes left.
----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Lackie <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
forColin, Vinyl has retained its place because there are those who say that that it has better sound quality than any digital source and because dj's use ititthere own purposes. No-one would say that the sound quality of cassette is better than anything and most if not all digital storage media score overin convenience.
Iain.
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