Hi Jim,
But that's just the point. You are not using the same commands as sighted
people as you put it.
When you turn on Voiceover, it changes the gesturing system to that which
is
more "blind-friendly" for want of a better word.
So many sighted people don't understand the interface at all when
voiceover
is turned on.
Had they kept it the same for both camps, then it really would have been
good, but they didn't for one reason or another, and that's one thing I
don't like.
With Talks for example, for the most part, you are accessing the phone
exactly the same as a sighted person would, except for special keys like
the
signal strength etc. But Apple in their wisdom, chose to change the whole
gesturing system.
All the best
Steve
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
jim denton
Sent: Wednesday 13 January 2010 16:08
To: accessuk
Subject: [access-uk] Apple or?
Hi all,
Just a few thoughts. I have been reading a few of the threads over the
last
week or so, the I.pod touch came up. I am not going to bang the drum for
one
device or another.
As some will know, I like things to be simple, I am a user of tech gear,
but
don't really understand whats going on underneath.
Nokia have been providing phones for over 12 years, third party companies
have added speech to those phones for us. Now there is GPS added to that,
again by third parties. That makes three different companies in the loop
to
give the phone functions for us to use. I don't know what the time gap
there
is to update for us, but my guess is that Nokia has to upgrade the
opperating system, then the speech companies do their stuff and finally
the
navigation software. Hopefully all three areas talk to each other, but I
bet
they all blaim each other for bugs and faults. Who is at the end of this
game us, speech has been on the phone for about ten years, but we have to
wait, and then cough up for new releases.
Apple brought out their first phone three years ago, not accessable. but
two
years later, there is a accessable phone, a new concept for us blinkies to
get to grips with. The speech is part of the opperating system, so thats
one
less third party company to deal with. This phone is less than a year old,
and you can already get Navigation, dictation, music, and a choice of
thousands of other apps to try out. Not all of the stuff works well, and
some does not work at all, but it gives us more choice. I have not used
one
of these phones but it seems to me, that if we are using the same
commands
as our sighted friends, then they will be able to help and advise rather
than having expensive training with our hightech wizards. There will be
less chance of the specialist companies blaiming the opperating systems
for
bugs, and blaiming other access companies when their stuff doesn't work.
For me, a phone is to make calls on, and text on. I would like to have a
pocket navigation solution, and at some point use the phone to get on to
the
internet. I will be upgrading my phone this year and will look at all the
options. If the Iphone gets a really good Daisy reader, and maybe a
scanning
app, then I will seriously look at that, to do all that with a Nokia phone
would cost a lot of money and woud remain a dream.
Keep it simple stupid Jim
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