[access-uk] Re: Apple or?

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:16:33 -0000

Hi Jim,

It's still painful to use if you are blind for real productivity.  I have an
iPod touch, but I would never have an iPhone.  Besides, it's so poor as a
phone anyway, the battery life is poor and the battery is not even user
replacable.

All the best

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
jim denton
Sent: Saturday 16 January 2010 17:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple or?

Hi Steve,

good point, but the interface is more of a visual concept. People who loose 
their sight later in life may find that easier to learn. As I have said, it 
is good to have choices, and thats good for every one.

Cheers for now Jim


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:40 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple or?


> Hi Jim,
>
> But that's just the point.  You are not using the same commands as sighted
> people as you put it.
>
> When you turn on Voiceover, it changes the gesturing system to that which 
> is
> more "blind-friendly" for want of a better word.
>
> So many sighted people don't understand the interface at all when 
> voiceover
> is turned on.
>
> Had they kept it the same for both camps, then it really would have been
> good, but they didn't for one reason or another, and that's one thing I
> don't like.
>
> With Talks for example, for the most part, you are accessing the phone
> exactly the same as a sighted person would, except for special keys like 
> the
> signal strength etc.  But Apple in their wisdom, chose to change the whole
> gesturing system.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of
> jim denton
> Sent: Wednesday 13 January 2010 16:08
> To: accessuk
> Subject: [access-uk] Apple or?
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just a few thoughts. I have been reading a few of the threads over the 
> last
> week or so, the I.pod touch came up. I am not going to bang the drum for 
> one
>
> device or another.
>
> As some will know, I like things to be simple, I am a user of tech gear, 
> but
>
> don't really understand whats going on underneath.
>
> Nokia have been providing phones for over 12 years, third party companies
> have added speech to those phones for us. Now there is GPS added to that,
> again by third parties. That makes three different companies in the loop 
> to
> give the phone functions for us to use. I don't know what the time gap 
> there
>
> is to update for us, but my guess is that Nokia has to upgrade the
> opperating system, then the speech companies do their stuff and finally 
> the
> navigation software. Hopefully all three areas talk to each other, but I 
> bet
>
> they all blaim each other for bugs and faults. Who is at the end of this
> game us, speech has been on the phone for about ten years, but we have to
> wait, and then cough up for new releases.
>
> Apple brought out their first phone three years ago, not accessable. but 
> two
>
> years later, there is a accessable phone, a new concept for us blinkies to
> get to grips with. The speech is part of the opperating system, so thats 
> one
>
> less third party company to deal with. This phone is less than a year old,
> and you can already get Navigation, dictation, music, and a choice of
> thousands of other apps to try out. Not all of the stuff works well, and
> some does not work at all, but it gives us more choice. I have not used 
> one
> of these phones but it seems to me,  that if we are using the same 
> commands
> as our sighted friends, then they will be able to help and advise rather
> than  having expensive training with our hightech wizards. There will be
> less chance of the specialist companies blaiming the opperating systems 
> for
> bugs, and blaiming other access companies when their stuff doesn't work.
>
> For me, a phone is to make calls on, and text on. I would like to have a
> pocket navigation solution, and at some point use the phone to get on to 
> the
>
> internet. I will be upgrading my phone this year and will look at all the
> options. If the Iphone gets a really good Daisy reader, and maybe a 
> scanning
>
> app, then I will seriously look at that, to do all that with a Nokia phone
> would cost a lot of money and woud remain a dream.
>
> Keep it simple stupid Jim
>
>
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