Before replying and accusing me of less knowledge of linux - I can guarantee I
am more informed that yourself.
Read my solution - clearly the more productive and useful information in this
entire thread. And as I pointed out from the get go ALSO functionality is
BROKEN.
Maybe you guys need a lessen in human civility instead of ganging up on the
outsider who helped and actually wrote the solution and current reality and dev
state.
In stead you try to make excuse and play fault on me?? Really. Blinders on.
Read my solution, if that does seem rational and smart coming from someone who
may understand linux cross-distribution and common sense design and
practicality for the average normal human and user, then maybe you need a col
shower and reality check.
And Jonathan clearly you read my introduction where I don't use DAWs generally
beyond audacity and have linux experience. In fact my intro messages were
allabout simplicity and ease - and yes you read for a fact.
The problem was the GUI and you saying somehow by its nature, Yoshimi have (a)
working commonplace ALSA integration, simple drop-down to attach the midi
controller (b) having the form for ALSA in this regard, but it's broken and (c)
calling A GUI which YOSHIMI Is handholding in this regard, show your own total
and utter execuse-making retardation.
Your defensive approach towards me after all thread and repsonses is an insult
inself and the act of total jackassery.
Good luck I'm outta here. PS. I work off the commandline for most of my DAILY
LINUX TASKS that include scripting and running complex server. However I don't
usually have to screw around with audio much and call me lazy but when I see a
GUI application and see an ALSA section to specify a midi controller (which any
editor and DAW any synth like Yoshimi, it all works the same regarding
specifying and setting a midi controller, I would naturally expect it to work
or at least have some explanation.
Instead you guys are shocked because you literally have your head up a JackAss.
Let's list the # of linux applications with GUI and let's list the ONLY
application I have ever seen in AUDIO ever lacking (or actually broken and
inadeqaute on the interface selection level) this simple and commonplace
feature --- yep Yoshimi. Keep ignoring this or being unconcerned for the
solution - I AND ONLY I gave. Pathetic.
I tried to be helpful and nice, screw it, unappreciated and I don't hang with
excuse makers who think they are skilled linux users but in reality are not. If
you were you would be so daft.
You talk about complexibility. Hooking in a simple control is the most complex
task I have ever had to do ever on an OS for such as thing. AGAIN, take a look
at VMPK, scratch your own head and then wonder if you should have come at me
that way. That is not hand-holding that is basic 101 naturally expected
functionality of a GUI application. And if it is broken or not perfect, if you
think that is the end-user fault or they or ignorant or stupid, take a look in
the mirror for a reality check.
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Will - your answer I understood and took zero offense to, for the record. Sorry
for this mess. You all can see my final SOLUTION - that now Jonathan has
obviously skipped over, didn't get to get and decided to chime in towards me
about etiquette. When collectively it was a failure on your part.
See ya. Ungrateful hounds who defend a guy and approach who came at me like a
straight asshole.
Dec 31, 2018, 7:08 PM by jeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
Indeed. Yoshimi has never contained the extreme hand-holding that a
very few software instruments and related tools have. There have always
been more important priorities, which are the tones and timbres and the
music. Those who know, are grateful !!!!! Perhaps someone with ready
experience in the related coding may add such hand-holding...or not, and
if not, we will retain leaner code. Am not worried about it either way,
and will discourage anyone from worrying about it also. As long as we
have ALSA and JACK capability, users will figure out how to set them up
:-) aconnect for ALSA certainly. I haven't been able to use
QJackCTL reliably (to control JACK) for a little while in my favorite
setups, but Cadence and its collective have been doing the job much
better anyway. I am quite excited about patchmatrix, the newest option
I'm aware of for wiring the bits up, apparently in October JACK2
acquired the required metadata, will be trying this as soon as rebuild
time comes once again :-)
J.E.B.
On 12/31/18 4:28 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
Going back to the start...First of all, please keep in mind that Yoshimi has--
a *very* small number ofpeople who can devote a lot of time to it. That
small number being 1 - me :(When I first looked at the MIDI code it didn't
attempt to make any connectionat all (neither did most other software I came
across). Some stuff did, andused the ALSA port primitives to connect to the
first device it saw. Which washighly dependent on what order things are
started up, and assumed no re-starts.None of this mattered much to most
people as qjackctl was used to quickly linkstuff together by name, or they
used session software. Also Rosegarden (mysequencer of choice) could find
Yoshimi and auto connect to it if configured todo so. That last bit is
important because if it was not configured to, thentrying to connect via
qjackctl would appear to work but Rosegarden ignored theconnection - it had
to be the boss.Over a period of time I worked out how to identify a source
by ID (rather thanport number) if it was known, and provided the entry in
the ALSA tab for that.If you know the ID the hardware reports (which may not
be quite the same asprinted by aconnect -l) just enter that, save settings
and Yoshimi will find itand connect to it every time it starts.That did
everything I wanted it to at that time, and apparently what everyoneelse
wanted, so I moved on to other more important issues.I would refer you to
"The Short Yoshimi Guide.odt" in the "doc" directory forsome more info on
this.This is the first time anyone has raised this since then, and although
I'll putit on the list, I can tell you there is still much more that Yoshimi
*really*needs.If we were really smart we'd be able to find inputs in real
time as theyappear, but although that is easy to suggest, it is enormously
complex toimplement.Yoshimi is first and foremost a soft-synth, When Cal
forked it from Zyn 2.4.1he initially stripped out everything that was not
essential, and since I'vebeen in the driving seat I've tried to keep as
close to that as seemsreasonable.
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