Hi Larry. Your position is that "originalism" in law reduces to two premises: (1) "the fixation thesis (linguistic meaning of the text is fixed at the time of utterance);" and (2) "some version of the constrain system (there is a[n] ... obligation to conform legal practice (doctrine and application) to the linguistic meaning ...". So we have two things: language is fixed, and judges must abide that. The central problem as I see it lies in your first premise. I need an example of a sentence that has a "fixed meaning," so I can see what "fixed" is doing here. (Clearly, fixed isn't "fixed"). The main of language philosophy would hold that only certain kinds of words (rigid designators) resist family resemblance. So it seems that a better account of language would focus on the kinds of words used, and not start from the rather large premise, "every sentence has a fixed meaning." Indeed, what you really seem to be saying is this: every utterer of a sentence has a single meaning in his or her mind when declaring it. Note that the unit of analysis has changed from what language means to what the speaker thinks when saying it. This, for sure, would be a much better account of "originalism" -- for that is what "originalism" has historically been. Always, it has been about the search for communion with certain dead brains of the past in order to relive their mental lives and lionize their world understanding (for whatever enjoyment that pathos brings). Note also that there may be a false dichotomy lurking here. I hope you are not of the belief that IF ordinary language is not "fixed" (as you say), that it must therefore be "willy nilly." I don't believe you have ever argued this, but I want to be clear. Wittgenstein would see language as being something STRUCTURING. Is this "fixed" in your view? Let's say that most language comes to us in the form of a family resemblance. Such a thing would ultimately be a cognitive phenomenon (I assume), and would therefore "loosely bind." One might say: language channels. What is wrong if language binds in this way? (There is good reason to believe from cognitive sciences that human brains are hardwired to receive messages precisely in this format). So my point is that your fixation thesis seems to be less about language and more about what one might call "declarant psychology." Also, there is another important enthymeme here: when legislatures pass law, do they enact their declarant psychology with respect to the language being anointed (assuming such a thing can exist in a corporate form)? I think it is quite problematic to say that such a thing happens as a matter of the way law works. It surely goes against our positivistic understanding of law being only its language and not any generation's selected protocol for it. So I would say that once we repair your fixation thesis to make it (appropriately) a theory about intention, the meaning of "originalism" becomes quite clear. At time X, generations form pictures P concerning the ritual of enactments Q, and for all time after X, P is the law, not Q. Pretty much, this idea has been dumped in legal history and is only now resurfaced among conservative law professors. Where is my error? Regards and thanks. (PS -- sent this to my list Wittrs, too, since it is about language) Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq. Assistant Professor Wright State University Personal Website: http://seanwilson.org SSRN papers: http://ssrn.com/author=596860 Discussion Group: http://seanwilson.org/wittgenstein.discussion.html ________________________________ From: Lawrence Solum <lsolum@xxxxxxxxx> To: Miguel Schor <mschor@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "conlawprof-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <conlawprof-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "conlawprof@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <conlawprof@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 12:17:41 PM Subject: Re: Overturning Slaughterhouse: Resistance to incorporating 9th Amendment I am not really sure what Miguel Schor is asserting here. Of course, "originalism" as a name for a theory is used primarily in the United States--although constitutional theorists and jurists in many other systems with national courts have some awareness of our debates on these issues. To determine whether Schor's assertion is verified by the evidence we would need to have a working definition of originalism and then determine whether the practices of other national systems that can be characterized as achieving some minimum level of the "rule of law" do or do not conform to the requirements of the theory. If we characterize originalism as the conjunction of the fixation thesis (linguistic meaning of the text is fixed at the time of utterance) and some version of the constrain system (there is a defeasible obligation to conform legal practice (doctrine and application) to the linguistic meaning, then I think it is actually the case that most national legal systems are "originalist." ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/