[Wittrs] Re: From Brain to Mind: Continuous or Discontinuous
- From: "blroadies" <blroadies@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:14:59 -0000
Hi SWM:
What with the Posts going private and such I've decided to compose
something (that is not a nothing) on a theme which I believe shows our
difference. Where we agree is -- subjectivity can be studied
empirically, this study doesn't require positing a new substance, hence
we look forward to making a synthetic being with a mind, this being
requires a brain of some type, without which there is no mind; and while
mental accounts require a different language game than physical
accounts, this account can be responsibly scientific.
Where are disagreement emerges is how to express the relationship
between brain and mind, You are comfortable with "cause" which means, in
this context, produces, yields, makes happen. Is this fair? You hold to
a CONTINUITY THESIS, viz., from brain comes mind, while hold to a
DISCONTINUITY THESIS or EMERGENCE, i.e., mind emerges in a way that it
is inexplicable.
Most succinctly put: We can no more ask "where mind comes from?" than we
can ask "where matter comes from?" Though we can date each event. Matter
starts with the Big Bang. Mind starts when we conceived of being as
having a mind, when we attribute mind in the phylogensis of the animals,
in the ontogenesis of the conceived and then new-born child.
While we can date the event. We only can do so because we have decided
that it has happened. A close examination of physical materials present
at the emergence of mind will tell us what must be present for mind to
emerge but we can't detect mind emerging from the materials or how this
materials give birth to mind.
bruce
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