Thanks, Mike. Actually the WI eBird article that Ryan provided the link to is pretty good. The only thing I would perhaps emphasize a little more is the important structural differences between the two species -- particularly in the relative lengths of the tails. The article does mention briefly that Orange-crowned has a longer tail than Tennessee, which is certainly true. Tennessee Warbler has one of the SHORTEST tails of any warbler, and the projection beyond the white undertail coverts is noticeably short. The tail feathers of an Orange-crowned show much more projection. This feature can often be seen quite readily in warblers, since they are often overhead and providing many undertail views! I agree with Ryan that more photos of these two species would be very useful for comparisons. And, also very important (as Ryan mentioned) is the timing, with Orange-crowned Warblers being a late warbler, and very rare before mid-September. Tom Schultz Green Lake Co. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Ramsden Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:21 PM To: ryanbrady10@xxxxxxxxxxx ; wisbirdn wisbirdn Subject: [wisb] Re: Orange-crowned vs. Tennessee Warbler In addition to the field marks mentioned in the ebird article, the Peterson Guide to Warblers relies on the primary tip extension and the tail length as good ways to tell the Tennessee from the Orange Crowned. Tom Schultz might want to chime in on this. Sometimes the color of the undertail coverts as well as streaking can depend on angle, distance, light, optics, and wear and is subjective. I learned that the hard way. Mike Ramsden Beloit, WI > From: ryanbrady10@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [wisb] Re: Orange-crowned vs. Tennessee Warbler > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:15:11 -0600 > > > Forgot to add that this is a great website for fall warbler pics, > including OCWA and TEWA: > > http://www.giffbeaton.com/warblers.htm > > Ryan Brady > Washburn, Bayfield County, WI > http://www.pbase.com/rbrady > ---------------------------------------- > > From: ryanbrady10@xxxxxxxxxxx > > To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Orange-crowned vs. Tennessee Warbler > > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:44:17 -0600 > > > > > > Here's an old but timely article from the WI eBird team (specifically > > authored by Andy P) on separating Orange-crowned and Tennessee Warblers > > during fall migration. We could probably beef it up a bit with content > > and images but it will have to do for now. Orange-crowneds are late > > migrants and extremely rare in the state before at least the second week > > of September. If you see one before then, do your best to snap a photo! > > > > http://ebird.org/content/wi/news/tricky-fall-warblers-orange-crowned-warbler > > > > Ryan Brady > > Washburn, Bayfield County, WI > > http://www.pbase.com/rbrady #################### > You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin > Birding Network (Wisbirdn). > To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn > To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn > Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn > > #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn