I concur with your assessment, Mike. The back cover advertises the new Stokes guide as "the ultimate field guide for today's birder - the biggest, most colorful, most USEFUL [italicized in the book] identification guide to birds ever published." That's quite a claim. It is colorful, to be sure (it does has very good photos). As for biggest, it's big ... but Sibley (and Crossley) certainly take the cake - size-wise and weight-wise. More importantly, the claim to be the most useful ID guide ever published made me wonder if the words ("most"/"ever") would be backed-up by the text... The preface contains these words about one of the goals of this guide: "... to produce the most USEFUL [italicized] guide to identifying the birds of North America ever published..." Later, in the "how to section," with respect to the perennial debate between advocates of photos and advocates of drawings, the following appears: "Excellent, well-chosen photographs are ALWAYS [italicized] more detailed and more accurate than a drawing." Really? One thing's for sure: the authors certainly have a high regard for their field guide! I do like this Stokes better (much better) than the first one. But for quite a variety of reasons (as you mentioned: all the space devoted to rare species, subspecies, etc. - even hybrids!) plus the corresponding lack of other and more significant and detailed and (yes) useful information, at least on on a consistent basis (e.g., more specifics re: habitat, differentiation from similar species, etc.), I'm led to the conclusion that this guide does have a prominent position among photos guides ... but NOT among ID guides as a whole. The bottom line, in my opinion, is that the new Stokes guide doesn't come close to displacing (dare I say?) the real ID guides like Geo and Sibley. I'll have it on my shelf; maybe even in my van. But I won't lug it into the field while birding. That's my two cents! Wayne Rohde Walworth/Walworth/Walworth, WI #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn