[windows2000] Re: System hang copying GB files (2003)
- From: "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:25:16 +0200
----Original Message----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tim Mangan
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:13 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: System hang copying GB files (2003)
> Thanks Sorin.
>
> The latest from Dell is that "there are issues" with having both a
SCSI and
> an ATA drive in this system at the same time. At this point I can
verify
> that! I am currently trying to junk the SCSI and go to the ATA, but
again
> Dell is not supporting anything bigger than 250GB yet (this is a 400).
> Grumble... My last hope before returning the new drive is to put a
smaller
> ATA as the boot drive and maybe I can bring in the big guy as a
secondary.
>
> tim
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 3:45 AM
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> Subject: [windows2000] Re: System hang copying GB files (2003)
>
> ----Original Message----
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> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tim Mangan Sent:
> Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:45 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [windows2000] System hang copying GB files (2003)
>
>> I'm looking at a problem - hoping someone else may have seen it
before..
>>
>> Windows Server 2003 on a Dell box. When I copy a multi GB file (have
seen
>> with 1.5 to 3.5 GB files) from one disk to another on the same server
the
>> system semi-hangs. Originally I thought the issue was a new disk I
added,
>> but have removed the new disk and found I could reproduce just
copying
>> between two existing drives. (The files I want to copy are virtual
server
>> disks, hence their size. They are normally excluded from backup
since they
>> are just temporary test machines so they have never been copied
before. I
>> bought the new drive to house these longer term.).
>>
>> The symptoms are that after about 40 seconds the user interface
hangs,
>> although copying continues. The box can be pinged, although remote
logon
>> attempts get near the logon screen - you get the background but the
"press
>> ctrl-alt-del" box never quite makes it up. Running performance
counters
>> remotely I continue to get results from counters, although new ones
cannot
>> be added because the server isn't responding to the enumeration
request.
>> With these counters, however, I see CPU usage drop down at the time
of the
>> hang. Memory indications (paged/non-paged, etc..) continue looking
normal
>> throughout.
>>
>> I haven't found anything like this in the Microsoft KB and am running
basic
>> hardware tests to see if anything odd shows up there. Sound familiar
to
>> anyone?
>>
>> Timothy Mangan
>> Founder, TMurgent Technologies
>> tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx (+1) 781.492.0403
>
> I've seen this too on my win2k3 servers at home, and have attributed
the
> "semihangs" to inadequte hardware (the 1ry is a amd classic
700MHz/512MB
> ram and the 2ry is an amd tbird 1200Mhz/512MB ram), specifically the
> harddrives, as they are ATA-type. I've never seen it on my
scsi-servers
> at work. I also beleive this is a cache thing too. Nothing to worry
> about though, the copy or move-procedure always ends correctly, even
if
> the server semihangs. I usually see this when handling big files, like
> 500MB and more.
>
> HTH.
I run daemon tools on all my servers (with no problems), and this is
supposedly a driver that emulates scsi-drives. At least it shows up in
the scsi-drives portion in device manager.
All my ata-drives are also smaller than 200MB, except for a single 300MB
maxtor in a stand-alone fileserver. And none of the servers's a dell,
only OEMs or Compaq Proliant ML towermodels.
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