[windows2000] Re: Keeping two wireless networks separate
- From: "Robert Coffman - Info From Data Corporation" <bcoffman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:36:55 -0400
MessageBased on what you are saying, no, they won't. You have separated
subnets and they are essentially firewalled from each other by the NAT
devices you have them connected to.
- Bob Coffman
-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kevin Alexander
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:03 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Keeping two wireless networks separate
Thanks Bob, much appreciated. The Leaf Bering router looks like Linux to
me and I'm a M$ boy, so I'd better steer clear! Must not be unfaithful to
Billy.
The RJ45 splitter isn't going to work:
http://www.mycableshop.com/sku/RJ45SPLITTER.htm?x=22&y=17
it needs a splitter at the other end.
So, I have two separate networks (ignore the fact they are both wireless -
that's sorted by using different channels, thanks Corey). Both have
firewalls/routers at the end, and then link into a hub that connects to
broadband. If, for example, one network is on 192.168.1.x. and the other on
192.168.2.x, both firewalls (with different IP address on the broadband
router range) then use NAT to forward to the internal IP of the broadband
router, but it hits an unmanaged hub with no IP first.
That seems to make sense to me, but I'm still unsure whether the
192.168.1.x network would be able to see the 192.168.2.x network.
Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Coffman - Info From Data Corporation
[mailto:bcoffman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 September 2003 15:35
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Keeping two wireless networks separate
I've done similar to this (both wireless and keeping "guest traffic" off a
LAN) using a Leaf Bering router. For your purposes, it would cost nothing
more than an old PC and your time to configure it. Whether you use Bering
or not, I think you still need a router to accomplish your goal.
- Bob Coffman
-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kevin Alexander
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:43 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Keeping two wireless networks separate
Thanks for the help so far guys. Yeah, the channel sounds fine and will
block the two wireless networks from each other, but at some point both
wireless networks will hit a hub and then be able to see each other.
The only thing I can imagine working is to keep them on two separate IP
address ranges, (ie. 192.168.x.x and 10.x.x.x) and using different hubs
until they reach the broadband connection. If I can then use one of those
Ethernet splitters to take inputs from two sources it might work. Each
network could then end in a firewall/router that point to the same broadband
connection. I'm just not sure whether they would then be able to see each
other ..
Any help gratefully received!
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 September 2003 14:20
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Keeping two wireless networks separate
the other channel would still be connected to the regular lan. The
other computers are connected to the regular lan too. You have to look at
it like you would a hub. How would you put two groups of people on hubs and
have one group be blind to the other. You really can't, you have to put
them on a different network.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Corey S [mailto:yahoogroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:12 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Keeping two wireless networks separate
I haven't got much experience with wireless networks, but could you
use seperate channels? Perhaps have the office running on channel 1, and the
delegates on channel 11?
This should effectively block them from seeing each other - and it
leaves plenty of room between the channels to try and eliminate overlap.
Corey
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Alexander [mailto:kalexander@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:26 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Keeping two wireless networks separate
Apologies if this is slightly OT.
At one site, we have a wireless (802.11b) bridge connecting two
buildings, sharing an internet connection. We have been asked to also
provide wireless internet access to delegates who attend conferences.
Obviously we can do this fairly easily (and cheaply) with something like the
Network ME102 Access Point and MA111 USB adaptors.
The problem is this - how do we ensure that delegates cannot browse
to any of the computers on the network? There is no Win2k server at this
location, just 10 Win2k & XP PCs connected to a Workgroup. Workgroup
security is bad, so I really want to find a path to the broadband connection
that blocks the office PCs.
The only idea I have at the moment is to split the RJ45 that goes
into the broadband connection into two - one for the office and one for the
delegates. Would this stop each segment seeing each other?
Thanks in advance
Kevin
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