Don't get me wrong... I like AMD... My home PC is running an Athlon = processor... But using an AMD processor in a server is like using = ATA/UMDA Drives instead of Ultra160 drives. Each technology has it's place and each technology will continue evolve = into new space. Sure, there will be a time when AMD processors are used = in Server. By then, they will have Technical problems (cooling, power = requirements for example). They will have server class chipsets. They = will have Tier 1 support 24/7 onsite. Who knows, maybe Serial iVDR, or something similar, will someday be used = in NAS/SANs. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:07 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Can't DCs be ghosted?? Dell PowerEdge servers are available with an Athlon. IBM has an Athlon = =3D MP in the works too. Servers have never been the AMD focus but they are = =3D starting to creep in to it more and more. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:50 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Can't DCs be ghosted?? Depends on what you purchase... Tier 1 server providers simply do not = =3D =3D3D use AMD processors in their server products. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:35 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Can't DCs be ghosted?? that's not really a fair shot at AMD. I have had less problems with AMD = =3D =3D3D =3D3D3D based machines than I have Intel based. We have several business = =3D3D3D critical batch processing machines here that are mostly Athlon based and = =3D =3D3D =3D3D3D they run great. Intel marketing would like me to believe otherwise. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:18 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Can't DCs be ghosted?? What do you hope to accomplish with Ghost? Will the systems not boot = =3D =3D3D =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D with the new board and processor? I'd steer clear of AMD processors and Boards for a business production = =3D =3D3D =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D environment. Stick with a known vendor, such as HP, Dell, IBM. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:11 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Can't DCs be ghosted?? On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:46:45 -0800, Joe Shonk wrote: >Build another box to be a temp DC... Demote the old, do your ghosting, = =3D =3D3D =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D >and promote the new box... Demote the temp DC. The cpu (athlon t-bird/1200 with the standard fan) burned on the dc(!) during the night. Either that or it got severly overheated for whatever reason... Some new years eve... The boss better not forget the *Sysadmin's Appreciation Day 2003*... Anyway, I switched the mobo and cpu to another I had handy. This mobo features an integrated lan-chip, and now I can ghost the dc. Ie w/o depromoting it. I'm doing it right now.=3D3D3D3D20 What gives? Will the image work should I need to ghost (image-to-disk) the dc again?? >-----Original Message----- >From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:40 AM >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [windows2000] Re: Can't DCs be ghosted?? > > > >On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:23:10 -0800, Joe Shonk wrote: > >>No... You will need to DCPromo and demote the server before =3D3D3D3D ghosting... =3D3D3D3D3D >=3D3D3D3D3D3D >>then you can repromote it... Make sure you move the FSMO roles GC to = =3D =3D3D =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D >=3D3D3D3D3D3D >>another DC first. > >Sh!t... Is there any other way to do this w/o demoting and stuff? > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:55 AM >>To: Windows2000 Mailing List >>Subject: [windows2000] Can't DCs be ghosted?? >> >> >> >>Hi all, >> >>Can't DCs be ghosted?? The one I'm trying to ghost is a DC with the >>GC. 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