> There are a _bunch_ of other "derivatives" of 9wm including w9wm (9wm > hacked to add workspaces), aewm, aewm++, alloy, evilwm et. al. Note: > some of these are second and third derivatives :-) i did spend some time with the derivatives in the past. i didn't mention them because they really seem to have nothing common with plan9 and 8 1/2 except perhaps for a desire for simplicity. i think the reason they descend from 9wm is that it iss one of the easiest (and possibly the cleanest) WM to hack. but i should have mentioned w9wm; very useful to have 9wm with that workspaces hack especially on a vaio (where i have it) or something with such little screen realestate... oz --- a wizard may be safely defined as a large ego which comes to a point at the top. -- terry pratchett (SDW II)