Good overview Chris...that's exactly what I do, and in 3 years of writing proposals, it hasn't failed me yet. At 05:09 PM 1/10/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Brief Synopsis: > >Protect yourself by: >1) Building in reviews >2) define your scope carefully. For an example of an excellent (and very >dry scope document) have a look at the link below - It has nothing to do >with the web, but, well, it might tickle your cookies, and it's good enough >for the US Government >http://www.ams.usda.gov/fqa/aa20254.pdf > >I have added a more detailed discussion below - > >cheers > >chris > > >Detailed: >1) Build in "Review" periods into your project if at all possible. Almost >all of the work we do on this side of the Pond (UK) is fixed price, and >that's just the way the market is. > >In order to protect ourselves from getting it completely wrong we include >the caveat that whilst we have quoted an absolute price for the first >"phase" of work we will complete for the client, the quotes that we give at >the outset of a project for later pieces of work are guide prices, not >absolute. > >On a larger project, this might mean that we would quote our client a cost >for a needs assessment phase. whilst we would also quote prices for the >other phases of the project to completion, we reserve the right to change >our figures if the client changes the scope. This is dressed up nicely: > >"Projects of this type often evolve to take a slightly different direction >than that envisaged at the start. With this in mind, we quote separately >for each phase. The figure for the first phase is firm =AD the quotes for >later phases are best estimates." > >This approach could be applied to any situation, all work of any sort can >naturally be broken up into bite sized chunks, so quote firmly only on the >start of each piece, and reserve the right to change your mind later.! > > >2) Create a very dry project scope document defining exactly what is in, an= >d >out of scope. Be very, very specific - if there are a certain number of >pages to be added, then say so. MAKE YOUR CLIENT SIGN IT TO AGREE IT. > >Be very careful of anything like "create new products section" which is no= >t >numerically exact. It is a pain in the backside to write, but it makes a >lot of sense in the long run. > >NB - This document becomes extremely handy at the end of projects, when you >can turn around and say to your client: >"Look, I over delivered here, here and here. And here's my proof!" > >As part of this document, include a change request process. This should >include details of the mechanism by which the client should request changes= >: >e.g. changes must be requested by email/ fax to xxxxxx. The email/ fax mus= >t >include these details (senders name, problem, change requested etc). > >Specify what will happen if an out of scope change is requested: >e.g. We will respond to your requests within X amount of time (e.g. 1 >business day). Changes not included within the original scope will only be >undertaken after CLIENT has signed them off with YOURSELF. These changes >will be charged at our normal daily rate of $$$$. > >3) There are no substitutes for a good lawyer. > >However, I get the impression that your client doesn't have a limitless >pocket of money, and no doubt it is as difficult/ costly for him to get the >lawyers involved as it is for you. > >I would undertake the project if I were you if I could answer yes to these: > >- "I can break the project down into small enough chunks that I can define >each of them, and cost them quite accurately." >(if you aren't sure what he wants, then don't commit because the scope will >change) > >- "My client is not seeking to take advantage of me with a fixed price >contract, he is just a little disorganised and he just isn't quite sure wha= >t >he wants yet, and he wants to make sure he doesn't spend more than he can >afford." >(if this is the case, spend more time scoping before you start work) > >- My gut feeling tells me this guy is not a Psycho, and as far as I am awar= >e >he has no history of pointless litigation! > > > > >Cheers > >Chris > > >Chris Hartley >Interactive Producer >Design Bridge Digital Media >[tel] 020-7814-1918 >[fax] 020-7814-9024 >[web] http://www.designbridge.co.uk > > > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject to >webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To access our webform (instead of sending e-mail) for popular commands >including subscribe, unsubscribe, digest, and >vacation visit www.WebProducers.org. 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