Hi Steve
It makes me so mad, all that work you've put in wiped out in a moment. Not
wanting to sound overly dramatic about this, but, enough is enough. The lack
of access to these 2 bit programs is discriminatory. Enough noise has been
made about access in the last 5 years, they surely can't say they don't know
anything about it. We're getting to the stage where we need to make an example
of one of these software providers and sue their fucking arses... Really, does
anyone out there have a lawyer friend? Would they be interested in taking this
on?
If not sue them, then try and get people to boycott them.
OK, that's out my system.
All the best
Ian
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On Behalf Of Steve Spamer
Sent: 04 May 2022 15:07
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Melodyne update news, it's not good.
Hi Floyd.
Oh, gotcha, yes that's the plan. Scripts will be done by the end of today , so
it's just tidying up the documentation and making videos. I do think there will
be a few different videos, as I want to explain each concept separately, e.g.
navigation, selecting blobs, splitting blobs , removing separations etc. Also,
as the scripts support the stand alone, ARA and plugin flavours of Melodyne,
along with each version, Essential, Assistant, Editor and Studio, there are
some things you can do in 1, but not another, plus the plugin version has a
couple of slight differences, due to what you need to do after a transfer.
Best Steve.
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From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of floyd white
Sent: 04 May 2022 13:13
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Melodyne update news, it's not good.
Hi Steve,
Yup, I got that.
My question is, do you plan to put your scripts up with an 'how to'
video for the Samplitude versions we already have?
I'm still happily using version 5 here.
Perhaps with a charge like Vallahalla?
Thanks,
Floyd...
On 5/4/22, Steve Spamer <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Floyd.--
It's only this latest Melodyne update, which is supposed to be a minor
update BTW that now shows no text on screen for a screen reader, the
previous version is still OK in that regard. So, you can still use
this build in any up to date DAW like Samplitude.
I'm communicating with others to see if there are any avenues to
investigate to see if we can get Celemony to at least make it how it
was prior to this update. I can't see them doing anything major, but
there maybe possibilities that they might consider. They've moved to a
new graphics platform called Skia...and if there are options to add
accessibility using this platform, there might be some hope moving forward.
BTW, the more I read about changes companies are making in regards to
what UI platform they use, the more Apple M1 silicon chips crop up.
Spectrasonics have done it...and I know they did it for this reason,
now it looks like Celemony have also done it. So, it looks like we're
losing accessibility, because of Apple changes 😖.
Best Steve.
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From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of floyd white
Sent: 04 May 2022 03:18
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Melodyne update news, it's not good.
Bummer Steve,
This is pretty much what happened with Sonar and CakeTalking.
Do you plan to put up the scripts with a video perhaps for we that
have older versions like with Samplitude 5 or 6?
By the way, Google, though it professes to be the cat's meow for
accessibility has lots and lots of issues in a number of their products.
Thanks for everything you do,
Floyd...
On 5/3/22, Steve Spamer <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi.--
I'm passing on the information I have regarding Melodyne's latest update.
My
initial thoughts were correct and Celemony have moved to a different
graphics library, hence why Jaws can no longer see any text on screen
at all. I'm not sure if this also has an impact on other solutions
for Melodyne, but it's quite clear that we're at the end of the road
with this product, unless Jaws developers can address it, or the
graphics library in question can be worked on with accessibility in mind.
Celemony tell me that the V5.1.1.003 version will be available to
anyone who requests it from them, but it won't be available via their
website. This is the last build that text can be seen on screen. The
latest build
(V5.2.0.006) breaks the ability to read text and they have no plans
to rectify this, as they are now sticking with this new library,
which is called Skia.
They did say they would be willing to update the version of Skia they
use, if any work with accessibility is done, as it's open source, so
is available to people to work with. Apparently, Skia is backed by
Google, so I would have thought that accessibility should be part of
it's mandate to deliver that accessibility, but this sort of stuff is
outside of my knowledge and I have no contacts who know about this
sort of thing available at the moment.
I will try to contact dev's at FS or whatever they're called now, but
again, I have no direct contacts there, so I would have thought it's
going to be difficult to raise this problem with the people who need
to know. If anyone thinks they have something to offer with making
Skia support screen readers, or if someone has a contact at FS I can
write to, then please get in touch:
Stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:Stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx>
Best steve.
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