Rox, /lol/ I can just see Mill'E watching you sign, catching every word. = Yup, a smart dog is a scary dog. Mitzi isn't bilingual, but she does pick = things up from casual conversation and will act on what she hears whether I = mean her to or not. She will also respond to my musings around the house. = "Now, where's the... Oh! Good dog!" Sometimes she responds better to a = muttered question than an actual "find it" command. Silly poodle! I'm trying to think how I indicate to her that I'm just gabbing with = some human and that she should take a chill pill and let us get on with it... She's learned to do that so well that I still panic once in a while = because she has "disappeared." It's one of those behaviors that just snapped = into place with maturity, along with all the zillion other things I've been nagging her about for all these months. /smile/ She's learned to = interpret my body language and tone, I guess, but I use "wait" as the verbal cue = that she needs to just hang until I'm ready to move on. Would that sort of command work with Mill'E? I see it as a variation on "stay" or "down" or any of the other commands for some form of = stillness. If that makes sense. Stillness not being Mitzi's strong suit -- until recently, she had to really try and couldn't always manage -- we've = worked towards it gradually, so I seem to have a number of nuanced commands to indicate which variety of stillness I'm looking for.... I think I just confessed to rank heresy. /smile/ I've been reading a fascinating discussion on another list about the use of commands to = convey various concepts (like find, straight, halt, etc.). Does it all boil = down to the four basic commands (or three, even)? Or do our dogs grasp the vocabularies we use to indicate our wishes on a more refined basis? Now I'm just rambling. But my best suggestion is to coin a separate = command and hand signal to indicate that it's time for her to just watch while = you get on with your business. It's something that you could start using = around the house then gradually work in for more complex settings. Just some thoughts. HTH Tami Smith-Kinney -----Original Message----- From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The = Pawpower Pack Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:24 PM To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: (VICT) my bilingual dog One of the first behaviors I taught my dog mill'E as a clicker trainer = was a hand target; we have three main ones. One is where she touches the tip = of an index finger which I use as a pointer and the other is a palm-touch = and the third is a fist-touch. Each has their own uses. Mill'E also loves to watch me when I am using ASL (American Sign = Language) with other D/deaf or interpreters. She especially likes it when I talk about her and stares extra hard at = me during those times. The problem I'm having is that when I do a sign like "where" or "sample" = or "windy" which involve hand positions like the various hand target cues = she thinks I'm cueing her to target which interrupts me and is driving me = rather mad, if the truth were to be told. I have at least 3 interpreted conferences/meetings in the next month and = I need to figure out how to make clear to her when I want her to target = and when I want her to just watch me "talking" or sleep. Anyone have any ideas?=20 iyie yie yie Smart dogs; can't live with 'em; can't live without 'em. I'm trying to c/t for laying still and not moving but when I do the = target motion she has stopped responding to it and I think she's confused; heck = I'm confused! Ideas, anyone? Thanks! Rox and the "Kitchen Bitches" Bristol, Gracy, Mill'E "Let us permit nature to have her way. She understands her business = better than we do." ~Michel de Montaigne pawpower@xxxxxxx windows messenger: Brisomania@xxxxxxxxxxx AIM: brissysgirl