In a message dated 9/1/2007 1:54:15 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, scripto@xxxxxxx writes: Growling large dogs racing toward me would probably make me go on the defensive very quickly, and clamp my fingers around that bottle of pepper spray. But first, I'd cue my dog into a down position with his head turned away from the oncoming dogs. Debi, I have heard of this position used to avert dog attacks, but want to know if you have any more information on its use and effectiveness or some net resources for this type of information.. I have tossed this idea around as something to teach Alex. I am of mixed opinion on teaching it and would like to see more info. On one hand, it is a calming position for a dog and non threatening to other dogs. On the other hand it makes a dog more vulnerable in the case of a true attack. I think, blind or Vi handlers,without the ability to read the body language of the approaching dog, that it might be a toss up. My other concern is for the proximity of the handler in such a situation. As you probably know, and I know from experience(understement) reaching into a dog fight nearly always gets you bitten. And instinct sometimes isnt prudence in such a situation. I admit it, it took a serious bite for me to finally decide that I would be better off patching the dogs up after a fight than I would reaching in. Ok, I have to admit that I still did just that, last spring when a foster dog was killing my old dane Lynard. She still managed to do a serious enough wound that he had to be euthanised. After being pinned with me lying on top of her and with me choking her and trying to get her jaws off of Lynards head. God, I still miss him. Two Danes fighting is definitely not a thing to be taken lightly. If a dog keeps moving and even though speeding up into harness, keeps working, it at least get's you away from the not-truly-aggressive attacks but might not do anything for a true attack.. Does anyoone know if there is any studies out there on attacks on guide or service dogs and how effective different responses are? Sandy Foushee Infinite Paws-Abilities Training and Service Dogs Teamed with Alexandra Guide/Service Dog Colorado Service/Assistance Dog Club - Trainer.- ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour