Thanks all, this is really helpful :)
Few thoughts based on the replies...
First and foremost, not everyone can read grade 2 (or contracted) braille, so
keep it simple
... braille is a fixed size which can make things tricky when labelling. Hence
I assume you have a 2 cell limit.
I have once seen the word ON for a power switch (note, switch, not button) so
the user would know which way to push the switch for unit to come on.
I also once saw DC for the power socket.
... what would also be good to include is the details of the web key, number
and password,
no point putting much braille on the device without the supporting info in
braille too.
Very good point, Alan,
If I remember, this was just a sticker on a piece of plastic on the router I
got.
There wouldn't be room on that to put the equivalent braille.
So this should probably be a transcription job onto ordinary braille paper -
probably for those who need it.
I trust this helps.
With best regards,
James.
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hello
adding to Georges and James comments.
what would also be good to include is the details of the web key, number and password, otherwise we will still need to Waite for sighted assistance when trying to set up devices, so in the end no point putting much braille on the device without the supporting info in braille too.
sorry if thins makes your product more expensive as each one would be individual.
On 01/06/2020 10:54, James Bowden wrote:Hi Bob,
I would agree with George: keep to just braille letters if possible and short,
because you probably don't have much space.
I have once seen the word ON for a power switch (note, switch, not button) so
the user would know which way to push the switch for unit to come on.
I also once saw DC for the power socket.
George is also absolutely correct to mention that braille comes at a fixed
size. It is important to follow this, as otherwise the characters may not be
readable. The height and shape of the dots is also important.
I trust this helps.
James Bowden
Braille Technical Officer
RNIB
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Hi Bob,
No problem asking this on braille-uk - I run that too 😊
And well done for even thinking about braille!
First and foremost, not everyone can read grade 2 (or contracted) braille, so
keep it simple
Second, though I suspect you already know, braille is a fixed size which can
make things tricky when labelling. Hence I assume you have a 2 cell limit.
So to your chart. And bear in mind I am also thinking as someone who might have to provide end-user
support. So signs like "@" and "!" in braille would not we easily understood by
said support person.
Power - P for power is logical
Broadband - suggest BB not @
Phone - suggest PH
Wan Port - suggest WA or WP
Factory Reset - suggest FR not !
Feel free to contact me off list of you wish.
George W F Bell
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76 Bunting Road Ind. Est.
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United Kingdom.
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Hi all,
Unsure if this is a good audience to ask, so apologies if not. I did consider
cross-posting to braille-uk but was unsure of etiquette.
I'm currently considering the design of a piece of consumer electrical
equipment and have been toying with the idea of featuring braille notation on
the plastics to specify what various ports/buttons are. This is completely
foreign territory for me though, so I'm wondering...
- If there's already some sort of accepted convention that exists for labelling
common things like power buttons/Wi-Fi etc?
- If this is something that the visually impaired would actually find useful?
- If so, would the expectation be that all ports/buttons etc. are labelled, or
only certain ones e.g. power?
The equipment in question is a broadband router and I've had a best effort attempt at what
Braille could be used to label the various buttons etc. You can see that here -
http://bobzilla.uk/braille_schematic.JPG ;<http://bobzilla.uk/braille_schematic.JPG>
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Does anyone have any feedback/thoughts/suggestions? Is it useful? Is the
semantic logical?
Best regards,
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