[triadtechtalk] Re: Putting used XP computer online
- From: Armando Barreiro <avbsantos@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:32:58 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Although Windows will make a backup of your existing system files prior to
installing SP2 so you can uninstall it, if the need arises, I'd recommend that
you make an image of what is there now, just in case, so that you can revert to
its present state if you should need to do so. If everything works out alright
then dump the backup and make a new one after SP2 is already installed and
working O.K.
If you have the installation CD then I'd recommend doing a clean
reinstallation, thus bipassing any isssues present and inherited. Then apply
SP2.
XXCLONE[1] will do the image-clone-backup for free.
ERUNT[2] is a substitute for XP's System Restore[3] and can also be used in
conjunction with Sys. Rest., though if you have a space constraint because of
the size of your HDD from the start, then using both will certainly have an
appreciable consequence.
I disabled SR in my XP box and I use ERUNT solely instead. I use ERUNT in 2K
Pro as well.
Rarely will a modern DSL modem not also be a router, but I'm not out to prove
it. I've got better things to do.
Most of the issues arising from the implementation of SP2 in the past seem to
have been as a result of spy/ad-ware and viruses or trojans present prior to
the update, so your plan to check, clean and verify is a wise move. You might
also want to do an online scan for viruses with trendmicro:
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
my nickel's worth... 8-)
Armando
[1]http://www.xxclone.com/
[2]http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
[3]http://urlsnip.com/964130
-----Original Message-----
>From: ROBERT BURGER <RobertBurger36@xxxxxxx>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2006 1:52 PM
>To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: Putting used XP computer online
>
>I was calling Verizon to check to see if I had a router in my DSL modem.
>Since I was on hold (surprise?) I googled Westtell Model 2200 and one site
>read that it said it was a router on the hardware. So I looked at mine and
>sure enough, it said "DSL router.
>
>It is XP Home, Version 2002. Only SP1 shows up so I will need to install SP2.
> I ordered the SP2 disk last night.
>
>The modem did not come with a manual so I looked at one today on the net. It
>was only a quick glance but it seems that installing it on XP is more detailed
>and gives more choices than when I installed it on the Win 98. Win 98 did not
>give a choice of changing the password, which makes it kind of useless
>(Everyone knows that Admin and Password are the two default words), XP did.
>
>I looked at the router box on the dining room table and it said that to change
>the default settings, XP is needed.
>
>I plan on using the same modem for both computers, just unplugging and
>re-plugging rather than setting up a network. I will mainly be using only one.
>
>I will be downloading Ad-aware, Spybot, Spyware Blaster, a-squared and AVG to
>Win98 and running them on XP to make sure that the XP is clean before I
>install SP2.
>
>Thanks for the good input.
>
>Robert
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Armando Barreiro<mailto:avbsantos@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:32 AM
> Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: Putting used XP computer online
>
>
> Xp can see FAT and FAT32.
> It's 98 that can't see NTFS, unless it is networked, then it can see the
> NTFS boxes in which it is part of the network.
>
> You can download in 98 and transfer into XP.
>
> You can also see NTFS in 98 with 3rd party software.
>
> Which version of XP is this and which service pack? [Windows
> key]+[Pause/Break] pressed simultaneously will bring up the System Properties
> API and there you can see which XP and SP.
>
> If you're on SP2, you're covered. If you have DSL, then there's a builtin
> (hardware) firewall in the router.
>
> NTFSDOS will see NTFS from DOS:
>
> http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/NtfsDos.html<http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/NtfsDos.html>
>
> Armando
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: ROBERT BURGER <RobertBurger36@xxxxxxx<mailto:RobertBurger36@xxxxxxx>>
> >Sent: Jul 13, 2006 12:39 AM
> >To: TriadTechTalk
> <TriadTechTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:TriadTechTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >Subject: [triadtechtalk] Putting used XP computer online
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have a Win98 computer and bought a used XP computer. I have MSN with DSL
> and AOL with DSL (got both for $23) on the Win 98 and plan to install both on
> the XP computer.
> >
> >Can I download AVG, Zone Alarm and other anti-malware programs on my Win98
> machine, copy them to a USB drive and copy them to my XP before I connect to
> the web? I think not because FAT32 is not compatible with NTFS. True? Or
> can XP read both NTFS and FAT32?
> >
> >I have read that an unprotected computer can be infected within 20 minutes
> (12 minutes according to Sophos) of connecting to the web. If this is true,
> what is the best way to get the XP computer protected as quickly as possible.
> >
> >1. Install AOL version 9.0 on XP and use the dialup modem to download the
> AVG and other programs limit my exposure. AOL has a built-in A/V.
> >
> >2. Install MSN on XP and download the programs via DSL. MSN has Webroot
> Spy Sweeper for A/V.
> >
> >3. Buy a boxed version of an A/V and install it on XP.
> >
> >If I am connected to the web with either MSN or AOL, can I still get
> infected? Can the "bad guys" use other open ports to get to me?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Robert
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