Lance, "...do you do the normal Windows install - START|SETTINGS|CONTROL PANEL|ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS and browse to the location of the setup files?..." No I don't. I download all programs to C:\Downloads and install them from there. Brendan UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk