It looks like C. crassiuscula to me, but I agree with Ken that there is probably no way to be sure without brushing the tip of the abdomen and looking under a scope. I din;t think you need to do a full-fledged dissection to ID males, but you do have to have a specimen. Hugh On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Harold Howell <howellh2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > I found this moth last Sunday while I was photographing a Common Gallinule > (bird) in Sevier County. I think it may be a Hodges # 8738, Clover Looper > Moth, but I am not sure. It could be a Forage Looper. Either way, it is > an > exceptionally early sighting (or exceptionally late, if that¹s an > overwintering adult). It was in Sevier County, on US 411 between > Sevierville > and Chestnut Hill. Comments will be appreciated. > > Thanks in advance, > > Harold Howell > Grainger County > Rutledge, TN > > -- Hugh McGuinness Sag Harbor, NY