Part of my work involves using RF induced fields to remove those calcium salts, but we do not allow the treatment of lead pipes. The hocus pocus of water descaling but there is good science behind it; all to do with dipole moments; and I'm afraid many cowboys. One of the problems with lead water pipes was the lead leaches into the calcium salts, if you leave them their the salts protect the consumer, if you remove them every one in the house gets a good lead dose. Re the other. Not sure whether Shakespeare should also be shot, but you get the general idea. It's a shame the electronics industry was divided and each group decided follow the ROHS directive, united we could have ignored it. Too late now, though I do wonder whether the idiot OKO list is an opportunity for the industry to ignore it. Funnily enough I met with several electronics company owners in Italy a couple of years back, their interpretation of RoHS was 'it is not for the Italians, we will work with it for a couple of months and can then ignore it' ! I don't what the answer is, but it gets me very frustrated. Regs Mark Dr. Mark Vaughan Ph'D., B.Eng. M0VAU Managing Director Vaughan Industries Ltd., reg in UK no 2561068 Water Care Technology Ltd, reg in UK no 4129351 Addr Unit3, Sydney House, Blackwater, Truro, Cornwall, TR4 8HH UK. Phone/Fax 44 (0) 1872 561288 RSGB DRM111 (Cornwall) _____ From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Landman Sent: 10 June 2008 02:42 To: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: ACE Develops Lead Tinning Syste m Right you are Werner. My lead pipe was encrusted with insoluable lead salts (from the hard water). Inside and outside as well from the water in the ground. And all the chimney flashings here are lead sheet. Bob _____ From: Engelmaier@xxxxxxx To: mark@xxxxxxxxxx, tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:33:46 -0400 Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: ACE Develops Lead Tinning Syste m Hi Mark, I did not mean top imply that Ag and its salts are toxic for humans, but to bacteria. I would imagine one would like to ave bacteria at work in a landfill. That Romans got lead poisening from lead water pipes is an urban myth. I saw the water papes in Pompeii-totally encrusted almost to occlusion be deposits. The Pb-poisening happened to the roman upper-crust, because of drinking highly acidic wine [much ore so than today's wines] from Pb-containing vessels. Werner ************** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)