[THIN] Re: Upgrade Farm XP FR3 to MPS 4.0
- From: "Rick Mack" <Rick.Mack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:19:21 +1000
Hi,
Sorry, should have explained. An Access data store is still available for
Presentation Servers, I just wouldn't use it. As you're probably aware, MSDE is
now bundled with Presentation Server.
With the availabilty of free and cheap MSDE admin tools I can't see any reason
for not using MSDE instead of the MSAccess data store. That's of course if a
production SQL server isn't available.
As an example of utilities, check out http://www.msdeadmin.biz for MSDEAdmin.
It lets you do almost everything you can with the full blown SQL admin.
Otherwise there's a freeware MSDE management tool that requires MSAccess,
MSDECFG.mdb.
Using MSDE (or SQL) instead of Access let's me easily clone servers and
dupilcate data stores for upgrades or testing. Why would I want to stick with
an Access data store? ;-)
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
Volante Systems
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Lonnie Truskowski
Sent: Sat 21/01/2006 2:46
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Upgrade Farm XP FR3 to MPS 4.0
Very timely, I am about to perform the same upgrade. You mention "NO MSAccess".
Is it not supported anymore? Or is there a specific problem with upgrading an
MS Access datastore?
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rick Mack
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:33 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [THIN] Upgrade Farm XP FR3 to MPS 4.0
Hi Jan,
An in place upgrade is fairly straight forward although the methodology
varies according to the size of your farm:
Install MF Xp SP4, only issue we had here was one customer who was
using a non system account for the ADF installer service. This stopped the
upgrade at the installing services point but we changed the service logon and
the upgrade worked.
Depending on the timing (how long it's going to take) you might want to
consider installing the post SP4 hotfix rollup. The main strategy here is that
if you're going to stage the upgrade rather than do all the servers together
you need a stable XP platform.
The next step varies. The Citrix recommendation is that you upgrade to
PS4 into a new farm, or at the very least you ensure a separate zone and ZDC
for the PS4 servers. If you're doing all your servers together I wouldn't worry
about a new farm. In this case I generally copy the datastore (SQL, MSDE, NO
MSAcess!!), make a new DSN file and either use "dsmaint config" or chfarm to
point each server to the new farm at the point of upgrade. There is a minimal
risk that the datastore might get clagged. This way the original production
farm is stil untouched. If the upgrade time is short, the new datastore can
have the same farm name, if it's a staged upgrade, I'd suggest a new farm. If
you have to talk to 2 farms, then having a WI front end wil make ife a lot
easier.
Anyway, once you've sorted out the farm/datastore stuff the upgrade to
PS4 is straightforward. Maybe we've been lucky but no problems so far. Install
the post PS4 hotfixes and the job is almost done.
Installing SP1 can sometimes be a challenge but the only significant
(show stopper) problem we've had is with the driver signing subsystem. (can'r
validate upfate.inf). If you stop the cryptography service, delete
%systemroot%\system32\catroot2, delete %systemroot%\system32\catroot\tmp*, and
the restart the cryptography service, SP1 should install fine.
As you're probably aware the "extra" security in SP1 will break a few
things so testing on a trial upgraded server beforehand isn't a bad idea.
Have fun.
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
Volante Systems
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Jan Homan
Sent: Thu 19/01/2006 20:43
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Upgrade Farm XP FR3 to MPS 4.0
We are planning to do an upgrade (according Citrix guidelines)
of a W2003 (no SP1) farm running XP FR3 to MPS 4.0.
Has anyone done this and if so did (s)he run into issues/problems ?
Thanks.
Jan
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