No. You need to contact them. It is best to get training first or you would waste a lot of energy. tim -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sergio Blum Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 1:16 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: RE : Re: Starting application in an isolate memorycontext. There's a place where I can download Softriticy Softwares for a try? There ins't a place on the www.softriticy.com Tanks for any help! ______________________________________ Sergio Adriano Blum - www.sisnema.com.br MCP - MCSA - MCSE - CCA - CCEA Microsoft Certify System Engineer Citrix Certify Enterprise Administrator ______________________________________ >>> tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx 03/22 2:40 pm >>> With the 2.0.5 version of Softricity, I believe you can apply a setting to the app (via the OSD) that causes a second copy of the app to run in either a different virtual space or share the original as desired. This *probably* would allow the app to work under TS/Citrix. But as Ron indicated, until you jump with both feet into SoftGrid you really won't know for sure. I certainly have seen some screwy things apps can do! tim Timothy R. Mangan Founder TMurgent Technologies tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.tmurgent.com +1 781-492-0403 -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ron Oglesby Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 12:13 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: RE : Re: Starting application in an isolate memory context. Well if that is really the setup with the app it is written pretty poorly. BUT softricity may fix it. My concern is that launching the same app within softricity two times may for the same user may run it in the same virtual runtime environment. SO it may not fix it off the bat BUT if the same app was sequenced twice or the app SFT (software pckge for softricity) was copied and the second session was launched from that you would be fine since that would be two sessions.=20 The problem here may reside with the app itself. Softricity does not fix ALL problems just a lot of them. Like if an app writes to the global heap, it wont fix that, it is still a bad app, get it? Anyway its worth giving a shot if you must absolutely have two sessions of this app. Does the vendor have anything to say about this situation? Because if it does what you are saying it probably does it from workstations also. Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 312.961.2380 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =20 -----Original Message----- From: Thierry [mailto:thierry.tissot@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 9:39 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] RE : Re: Starting application in an isolate memory context. Sorry but your diagnostic is not good the problem comme from the tuxedo session id wich resides on share memory in the user context. When you connect a second application in the same user context, this appli put another tuxedo session id in the same share memory and the first session loose her childs. That the reason why I must run each application in an isolate memory space. -----Message d'origine----- De : thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] De la =3D part de Ron Oglesby Envoy=3DE9 : samedi 22 mars 2003 16:01 =3DC0 : thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Objet : [THIN] Re: Starting application in an isolate memory context. I like softricity software but an not sure the memory (or sharing it) is really the problem here.=3D3D20 I am not saying that its not but it really sounds like the application = =3D is seeing the original connection (an possibly open app files) and re-using them itself. (poor application). It also sounds to me like this app is looking at its user names and info from a central location (like reading =3D an INI and Config files or reg entries) from C:\programfiles etc, and HKLM instead of the users home dir and HKCU> If that is the case Softricity would straighten that out by running it = =3D in the Virtual runtime environment that isolates it. But I would not spend =3D the money for softricity for a SINGLE application unless this is the major = =3D money maker at a company and "it just has to work". If I could use it for other apps (and probably would) I would spend the money then. Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =3D3D20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 312.961.2380 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Carl Stalhood [mailto:cstalhood@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20 Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 7:03 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Starting application in an isolate memory context. Softricity (http://www.softricity.com) allows each instance of an application to be executed in its own virtual environment thus =3D3D3D eliminating most contention issues that prevent some applications from working concurrently on a Citrix server. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = =3D =3D3D =3D3D3D Behalf Of Thierry Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 4:38 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Starting application in an isolate memory context. Hello, =3D3D3D20 Here is my problem : =3D3D3D20 I have an application published on Metaframe XP (Windows =3D =3D3D3D 2000 SP3). This application use Tuxedo 6.5 to connect to an application =3D =3D3D3D engine.=3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20 If I start this application one time from the client =3D3D3D everything works fine, but if I start it two times the data of second session =3D3D3D appear in the first session instead of good ones. The = =3D solution to solve this =3D3D3D problem is to make a connection from the client = out =3D of the farm and param this connection with another user login. In this case it works but we don't =3D3D =3D3D3D find this solution good. Is there any = way =3D to launch a citrix application in =3D3D =3D3D3D an isolate memory and = environnement =3D context so that global variables and =3D3D =3D3D3D share memory of first session = won't =3D be erased by the second one ? =3D3D3D20 Thanks Thierry. ********************************************************* This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale TScale increases terminal server capacity.=3D3D3D20 Get 30-40% more users per server to save $$$ and time.=3D3D3D20 Add users now! - not more servers. If you're using Citrix,=3D3D3D20 you = =3D must learn about TScale! 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